TV does kinda suck now...

Cius said:
Watched a review recently from the critical drinker where he finally watched Firefly and reviewed it. One of the interesting things he said in that review was how we did not realize how good we had it in the 90's and early 2000's. TV was in a golden age I feel and we just assumed it would stay that good or get better and instead the opposite happened. We really did not know how good we had it back then. Modern stuff is just so non-appealing for the most part with a very few exceptions. Finding nice shows to watch as a family we have to dig pretty deep, or go back in time to older stuff. Sad really.
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Yeah we have lost that.
I mean think of the 2000s. We had Lost, House, Battlestar galactica, the first season of heroes, Fringe, Mentalist and and. Plus you never waited 2 to 3 years between seasons
 
Brian_G said:
It's about sucking, see title

But yeah, on that point - it's like the suppliers are convinced they've managed to keep most sheep subscribing these days, so no rush to blow the budget..
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Yeah but not for content wise
But yes it's about budget apparently
 
Anyway @Lupus , IMO the killer all round is the streaming concept having been massively pushed and applied. Bye-bye shared sources, hullo less middlemen and more profit, and that longer term.

Problem is they can't go back. Not sure they even want to
 
Lupus said:

He brings up some good points, episodic tv seems to have died.
Sure it was great when we first got arching long tv shows, but they also didn't have 3 year gaps between seasons and seasons are so short 8 to 10 episodes if we're lucky.
I mean I barely even remember what happened in Stranger things and by now it's completely lost it's hype.
Umbrella academy also fizzled out, hell even things like the Boys, Incredible and Vox Machina take forever to release.
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greg_SA said:
Yep, the long gaps between seasons are terrible, and the fact that the main (and only) storyline is super complicated. I have to watch the previous season catchup multiple times before the next season just to try and understand what is going on, and I always feel like I am missing somehting.
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I really enjoyed shows like fallout ands the boys. But I will have to watch recaps now. It may tame 8 years to get 24 episodes.



Before streaming it was about 20 to 24 episodes a season and a 4 to 6 months break till the next season.

The last shows that I liked that had that sort of run was Person of Interest and Suits.

So streaming has the good stuff now, but very little of it.
 
I miss sitcoms, laugh track and all. Everything is sooooooo serious these days. And heaven forbid you mention the words laugh track, you will be lynched by the mob
 
Enzo Matrix said:
I miss sitcoms, laugh track and all. Everything is sooooooo serious these days. And heaven forbid you mention the words laugh track, you will be lynched by the mob
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So it's another factor of everything being focused on woke?

Maybe, the powers that shouldn't be seem to have a stronghold over American / British production efforts.
Crazy new world
 
The tech has come such a long way and yet it moves so slow. Can you imagine the effort to manually edit, add special effects, make up, wardrobe etc that the earlier star trek episodes took.

I know pixel pushing is time consuming but man I cant imagine its that the effort has increased that much.
 
We honestly think quite a bit of the modern CGI is worse than what we had around the 90's. Like the new Superman, plenty of it too unrealistic to take seriously IMO.

Another budget-speed issue?
 
B-1 said:
The tech has come such a long way and yet it moves so slow. Can you imagine the effort to manually edit, add special effects, make up, wardrobe etc that the earlier star trek episodes took.

I know pixel pushing is time consuming but man I cant imagine its that the effort has increased that much.
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Yet 24 episodes a season every 6 to 8 months gap.
Plus Game of Thrones, CGI lots of complex costumes 10 episodes every year. Only the last season took 2 years
 
Brian_G said:
We honestly think quite a bit of the modern CGI is worse than what we had around the 90's. Like the new Superman, plenty of it too unrealistic to take seriously IMO.

Another budget-speed issue?
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Biggest difference is in the past CGI complemented practical effects, so it didn't look so eh. Nowadays it is all just CGI :-(. I mean watch Pacific Rim with them spending weeks just to get one shot of a model robot arm touching a newtons cradle.
 
Cius said:
Watched a review recently from the critical drinker where he finally watched Firefly and reviewed it. One of the interesting things he said in that review was how we did not realize how good we had it in the 90's and early 2000's. TV was in a golden age I feel and we just assumed it would stay that good or get better and instead the opposite happened. We really did not know how good we had it back then. Modern stuff is just so non-appealing for the most part with a very few exceptions. Finding nice shows to watch as a family we have to dig pretty deep, or go back in time to older stuff. Sad really.
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It's quantity over quality these days.

Pushing out hot garbage is expensive and tiresome.

Every show lately also have some sort of agenda or woke or something about it.
 
I think there is still decent shows on. Just people trying to be hip and edgy. The "look at me" type person. Or the everything is "woke" rubbish. Have an elf or hobbit to well tanned and 1000 YouTube videos from someones moms basement will be created crying of outrage.
 
Stephen said:
I think there is still decent shows on. Just people trying to be hip and edgy. The "look at me" type person.
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It's got nothing to do with content, it's the length of time between content.
 
One thing that does work - there's more than enough junk to fill the time gaps 🥳
 
Another issue... Why do Americans prefer(?) to wait until Fall (Autumn) to start bulk releasing new material?
Not sure if that's part of the problem, but it always annoyed me before as well.

@bwana , do you maybe know why many releases are so specifically seasonal? It's not like most Americans are the outdoor types..
 
Brian_G said:
That's a nice way to abbreviate the problem & solution I suppose, certainly has many more good quality series.

It's really an art now.
We can keep lists and subscribe to useful sites / threads, but even then my lot sometimes hear about new seasons months later.
And some series get taken over by other suppliers, like how Greys Anatomy moved to Disney+.

It's become impossible to watch everything rated as worthy at any rate. Becomes too much of a task instead of being entertaining, plus that obsession encourages piracy thinking.
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Yup even though I pay for a bunch of things I still end up getting a lot of things on the high seas that simply aren't available otherwise or don't justify a full subscription.

Disney+ was so bad at logging itself out all the time and then requiring my phone to login again that my kids never used it and I ended up dropping it. Pure and simple failure to deliver at their prime directive.

I would be quite happy to forego all the subscriptions if there was an option to simply BUY the shows outright and I'm willing to bet it would cost me less too.

If Apple TV supported TV Shows locally I would probably have done exactly that as most everything is on there.
 
Brian_G said:
Another issue... Why do Americans prefer(?) to wait until Fall (Autumn) to start bulk releasing new material?
Not sure if that's part of the problem, but it always annoyed me before as well.

@bwana , do you maybe know why many releases are so specifically seasonal? It's not like most Americans are the outdoor types..
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There's probably some analytics somewhere that have shows historically they watch more TV through winter and so they target it accordingly, otherwise they have very good shows going down as flops for a lack of viewership.
 
Lupus said:
Odd Apple TV suffers the exact issue he's talking about. Not about crap content but shows having multi year gaps between seasons :).
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It was more a response to Cius' post than the thread at large.
 
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