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For the freaking reason that not every marriage is like that. If you bring up the issue of premarital sex maybe also bring up the issue of premarital rape and women who were deceived into having sex.

Who said all marriages are? Who's strawmanning and caricaturing now?

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Because YES if a guy pays for dinner and sleeps with a woman by telling her that she's beautiful and he loves her, when he does not really mean it, he is raping her in effect. It's not a violent rape but sex without freaking consent has occurred, because the consent is invalid. I agree with feminists here.

And if a wife doesn't want to have sex with her husband but he pressures her and tells her she's obligated to?

Space_Chief said:
You want to discuss the details of that. Go read up on it.

No answer then?

Space_Chief said:
Not automatically. If sexual intimacy is lost it may be worked on. If one party is unwilling to work on it, I would definitely say they are not taking their marriage contract seriously. Often there are reasons why intimacy is lost. Such as mental and physical conditions.

And if they can't reconcile and 'working on it' doesn't work?

Space_Chief said:
No because it's more than meaning it's a long term commitment. When you sign contract you can't just change your mind after a few weeks. The contract will be terminated and you may pay penalties. That's how this works. In addition the couples get education in this.

Not talking about a few weeks. Could be many years.

Space_Chief said:
Per your definition of marriage. Do you think it's valid then that an agreed upon arrangement ahead of time, such as "we'll stay faithful" when breached later by one party is a valid reason for divorce? Or do you think a marriage should still continue even if one party's terms were broken then?

As I said, it's up to the people in the marriage. They can divorce, or not. Up to them.

Space_Chief said:
Person A and B are married and they have sworn to remain faithful. Person A (always) refuses sex. Person B suffers for lack of sex. Do you think it's fair to ask for divorce in this case, or should person B just cheat on person A, even though they themeselves think this is immoral? Of course a divorce or annulment follows.

Sure, it's fair to ask for a divorce, if person B determines that's the best course of action. And remaining faithful isn't the equivalent of an automatic obligation for sex on person A because person B wants sex.

Space_Chief said:
There is an obligation in terms of marriage. It need not be on demand. And if the person refuses continuously to reciprocate on their obligations i.e. expression of love, then there is no reason for the marriage to continue. Of course not everyone has the same requirements and people may forego the sex. They may let the other party get away with it.

There can be many reasons people in a marriage feel it doesn't need to continue. Up to them.
 
Who said all marriages are? Who's strawmanning and caricaturing now?

Who was straw manning who? Why did you bring up the issue of spousal rape in the first place? Did you assume I must be someone who advocates it?



And if a wife doesn't want to have sex with her husband but he pressures her and tells her she's obligated to?

That's a what if question. Traditionally in Catholic faith at least such a woman would have access to a priest and if they were more religious they'd get pre marriage education too.

You may as well say what happens if someone abuses position X. Sure such can happen. But this can happen with anything. These days gay activists tell us that gay people have a right to have gay sex. It follows that sex is a human right. A woman who refuse sex to her husband or boyfriend could be said to be depriving him of his human rights too. The guy could cite that even gay people fight for a right to have anal sex respected and their right to it is entrenched, why can't he get sex then himself? She is a bigot. Anyone can twist things. Duh.

What if a male teacher tells his learner that sexual experimentation is OK and that he can experiment with him? What then. Will you not teach sex ed in school?

No answer then?

Go read up about it. Do I look like an expert at it. If you were charitable you'd have see there is a panel or tribunal and rules and precedents which are followed.

And if they can't reconcile and 'working on it' doesn't work?

Then annulment is possible.



Not talking about a few weeks. Could be many years.

So if you sign a 30 year home loan and then default after 20 the home should just be given to you?



As I said, it's up to the people in the marriage. They can divorce, or not. Up to them.

But if the one party wants to divorce and the other wants to keep the marriage do you not then think it's unfair to keep the one party who gets no sex in the marriage?

You're being slippery and not applying own criteria to yourself.



Sure, it's fair to ask for a divorce, if person B determines that's the best course of action. And remaining faithful isn't the equivalent of an automatic obligation for sex on person A because person B wants sex.

It's an obligation in terms of marriage. The marriage is however not necessary, they can end the marriage, the woman or the man can ask for annulment. It's not a "you'll have sex with me if you want to breathe", it's a "you'll have sex with me if you want us to remain married" and of course it all later depends on a panel to determine if this is fair.


There can be many reasons people in a marriage feel it doesn't need to continue. Up to them.

There can. But if one party asks for sex and is continually denied or sex is used as some sort of blackmail device then that does not follow that the marriage is based on mutual love and commitment. Only one party is committed to expression of love through physical means. This does not mean an annulment must follow, but it is grounds to request one and then find another person to marry.
 
Because YES if a guy pays for dinner and sleeps with a woman by telling her that she's beautiful and he loves her, when he does not really mean it, he is raping her in effect. It's not a violent rape but sex without freaking consent has occurred, because the consent is invalid.

So every guy is a rapist? Have we not all said to our girlfriends they look fine even when you both know she had picked up a little weight, and she asks you as it's bothering her.

How many women have said they love a guy for who he is and not the truth, they love his money. Are they rapists?
 
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So every guy is a rapist? Have we not all said to our girlfriends they look fine even when you both know she had picked up a little weight, and she asks you as it's bothering you.

How many women have said they love a guy for who he is and not the truth, they love his money. Are they rapists?

the idiocy ensues :D
 
Because YES if a guy pays for dinner and sleeps with a woman by telling her that she's beautiful and he loves her, when he does not really mean it, he is raping her in effect. It's not a violent rape but sex without freaking consent has occurred, because the consent is invalid. I agree with feminists here.

I... uhm... what... erm...:wtf:
 
I... uhm... what... erm...:wtf:

Don't know what to say rapist? Cat got your tongue? :D

I have seen some extreme feminazi's, i've even read some women's blogs where they say that a women can NEVER consent to penetrative sex, because it's ALWAYS an invasion, traumatising and therefore rape :D
 
Don't know what to say rapist? Cat got your tongue? :D

I've been accused of lots of things this week and it's only Wednesday. I'm expecting "genocide instigator" on Friday.

I have seen some extreme feminazi's, i've even read some women's blogs where they say that a women can NEVER consent to penetrative sex, because it's ALWAYS an invasion, traumatising and therefore rape :D

Please point me to this one :D

Edit: scratch the genocide one. Appears I was accused of that yesterday on mybb.
 
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Because YES if a guy pays for dinner and sleeps with a woman by telling her that she's beautiful and he loves her, when he does not really mean it, he is raping her in effect. It's not a violent rape but sex without freaking consent has occurred, because the consent is invalid. I agree with feminists here. .
But men do that all the time? Our moms warn us too.
 
Don't know what to say rapist? Cat got your tongue? :D

I have seen some extreme feminazi's, i've even read some women's blogs where they say that a women can NEVER consent to penetrative sex, because it's ALWAYS an invasion, traumatising and therefore rape :D

[video=youtube;extEsYmvTdg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=extEsYmvTdg[/video]
 
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