Ubuntu for dummies:

The amount of mail stored in any account would not cause windows to crash. I have stored much more than that, most of them with attachments ranging from between 500k to 6Mb. A blue screen typically means hardware failure, and the reason why Ubuntu might run perfectly on the same machine, is because it does not use drivers that utilizes the hardware to its full capability.
 
Waaib said:
What email client do you use?
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I use evolution, which obviously outperforms WindowsLive. I also had problems with Windows Live back in the day. Was an utterly useless mail client.

@slootvreter who says Ubuntu drivers does not fully utilise the hardware... eish it seems you have a lot to learn. Ubuntu outperforms Windows. Sorry boet.
 
froot said:
I use evolution, which obviously outperforms WindowsLive. I also had problems with Windows Live back in the day. Was an utterly useless mail client.
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Can you be more specific? How does it outperform Outlook?

Slootvreter said:
Microsoft Outlook 2003 and now 2007
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web said:
That program is terriable the bigger your data file gets the slower you pc goes.
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I agree Outlook goes slow after a while and you need to archive etc. I have however never seen a better interface for email.

The Office 2007 suite is absolutely brilliant in my opinion. I use PowerPoint and Word extensively and they are really great. The new PowerPoint and Word apps cut hours of document and presentation generation.
 
Slootvreter said:
The amount of mail stored in any account would not cause windows to crash. I have stored much more than that, most of them with attachments ranging from between 500k to 6Mb. A blue screen typically means hardware failure, and the reason why Ubuntu might run perfectly on the same machine, is because it does not use drivers that utilizes the hardware to its full capability.
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Thanks for this. It does make sense to me. The PC ran without a hitch on XP for 2 years and was almost never rebooted.
 
Evolutions interface is pretty much the same if not better than Outlook's and the best thing is that it has a built in back-up and recovery option that works properly.
 
OK, it seems you do need to know something about the terminal window and commands to use Kubuntu because every site I go to references these. I installed Kubuntu, yet it doesnt pick up any of my hardware by the looks of things so I need to install the drivers - but it isnt just a case of finding, downloading and installing. It talks gibberish about package management and using the terminal window commands to install. Well I just wont be bothered if I need a fscking IT degree to carry on with this. Imminent uninstall methinks...

It doesnt even have mp3 support, and clicking install mp3 support doesnt work because I assume I need internet connectivity to download the mp3 encoders or something. Yet I dont have the network drivers and Kubuntu doesnt pick up the hardware for that as well. So no internet, no music, no proper display drivers, no fsckall. And no way to easily configure it for a non-IT person. Fscking annoying...

Only one problem - my mp3s wouldn’t play in amaroK. Since I spent a long time trawling the web for the solution, I’m going to make life easier for you and show you how to set up mp3 support in Kubuntu:

1. You need to add the Multiverse repository to /etc/apt/sources.list. Add the line deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse. Apparently you modify the nl part to the country you’re in, so mine was gb
2. I think you have to do a quick update here, so from a console window run sudo aptitude update.
3. When that’s done, run the command sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs. This will install your mp3 support.
4. Run amaroK. You should probably restart the sound server with killall artsd, or reboot, but I found the mp3 support took effect straight away.
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Yeah, sure! If that's making it easy then open source can go fsck itself and I'll stick with Microsoft. I just don't understand why they cant make it easy and intuitive FFS!!! :mad:
 
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Well the same thing you can do from adept manager. People just choose to do it from the terminal because it is easier once you are comfortable using the terminal.

Just open adept manager, go to manage repositories from the first menu (not at my PC now so can't say), check main, universe, multiverse and restricted. You can select the source code to if you wish by checking the source code check box. Then go the updates tab and check the relevant boxes there. Once you're done click apply. It should then update the package list from the repositories you selected. Then you can type in the package your looking for and click install. Voila!
 
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Well the same thing you can do from adept manager. People just choose to do it from the terminal because it is easier once you are comfortable using the terminal.

Just open adept manager, go to manage repositories from the first menu (not at my PC now so can't say), check main, universe, multiverse and restricted. You can select the source code to if you wish by checking the source code check box. Then go the updates tab and check the relevant boxes there. Once you're done click apply. It should then update the package list from the repositories you selected. Then you can type in the package your looking for and click install. Voila!
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Thanks Swift. But to be honest, that just doesnt sound like a easy route either. Clicking "install" in Vista would be so much easier.

I have scoured the net for resources on Ubuntu for dummies but cant find an easy tutorial at all. And if I have to sit and watch youtube videos then I couldnt be arsed.

A lot of what you posted there means very little to me. It might be a step by step as to how to get it done, but I like to understand what I am doing and why. Source code means jack to me as I wouldnt have a clue what to do with it. The "main, universe, multiverse, restricted" is more jargon that makes no sense to me at all. I have no idea what that is all about.

My issue that I have is for non-IT people like myself, changing the OS is clearly not going to be an easy task and appears to be a bit of a mission! Seems I will be stuck with MS for now at least. And I am one of the few non-IT people actually prepared to make the change away from them as well - which is a pity for open source IMO. It needs to be more intuitive for those of us who have no knowledge of source code and commands used in terminal windows.
 
You should add the Medibuntu repository for video codecs. Once again I'm not at my PC and this net connection is capped for int. Go to the Medibuntu site and they will give you instructions on how to add the repo as well as the GPG key. Then just paste those two lines into the terminal and put in your password if prompted to do so.

The codecs I install are w64codecs (will be w32codecs if you're using a 32bit version of Kubuntu. Run uname -m in the terminal, if it says x86_32 then you're running 32 bit), libdvdcss2, libxine1-all-plugins. That does the trick for me and everything works. You can obviously install the codecs from adept manager since you don't like the terminal.
 
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DJK said:
Thanks Swift. But to be honest, that just doesnt sound like a easy route either. Clicking "install" in Vista would be so much easier.

I have scoured the net for resources on Ubuntu for dummies but cant find an easy tutorial at all. And if I have to sit and watch youtube videos then I couldnt be arsed.

A lot of what you posted there means very little to me. It might be a step by step as to how to get it done, but I like to understand what I am doing and why. Source code means jack to me as I wouldnt have a clue what to do with it. The "main, universe, multiverse, restricted" is more jargon that makes no sense to me at all. I have no idea what that is all about.

My issue that I have is for non-IT people like myself, changing the OS is clearly not going to be an easy task and appears to be a bit of a mission! Seems I will be stuck with MS for now at least. And I am one of the few non-IT people actually prepared to make the change away from them as well - which is a pity for open source IMO. It needs to be more intuitive for those of us who have no knowledge of source code and commands used in terminal windows.
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Go to www.ubuntuforums.org, it's your best friend at this stage. The "main, universe, multiverse, restricted" is just the name for the repositories where the various packages are stored. Personally I don't know what packages are stored in what repo since I don't need to know. Regarding the source code, leave it unchecked. Since most of the software is OSS, the source code for it can be downloaded as well.

Switching to Linux is a massive learning curve, trust me I know, but just stick it out. I know it gets frustrating, but in the end it was so much worth it. Just remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
DJK said:
Thanks Swift. But to be honest, that just doesnt sound like a easy route either. Clicking "install" in Vista would be so much easier.

I have scoured the net for resources on Ubuntu for dummies but cant find an easy tutorial at all. And if I have to sit and watch youtube videos then I couldnt be arsed.

A lot of what you posted there means very little to me. It might be a step by step as to how to get it done, but I like to understand what I am doing and why. Source code means jack to me as I wouldnt have a clue what to do with it. The "main, universe, multiverse, restricted" is more jargon that makes no sense to me at all. I have no idea what that is all about.

My issue that I have is for non-IT people like myself, changing the OS is clearly not going to be an easy task and appears to be a bit of a mission! Seems I will be stuck with MS for now at least. And I am one of the few non-IT people actually prepared to make the change away from them as well - which is a pity for open source IMO. It needs to be more intuitive for those of us who have no knowledge of source code and commands used in terminal windows.
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Like I said before n00bs need to buy a linux box which has linux supported hardware after that everything is point and click. :)

Windows was just like Linux back in the 3.1 and windows 95 days, I remember having to load command prompt to configure hardware back then... and this was windows!

BTW
To get MP3 to work in ubuntu just go add/remove > sound video > tick gstreamer, apply, done
 
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d0b33 said:
Like I said before n00bs need to buy a linux box which has linux supported hardware after that everything is point and click. :)
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Piece of cr@p if it cant support most hardware IMO.

d0b33 said:
Windows was just like Linux back in the 3.1 and windows 95 days, I remember having to load command prompt to configure hardware back then... and this was windows!
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So Linux is like going backwards then?
 
Fsck Rome. Let them build it on their own. I'll stay in Milan until Rome is complete...
 
DJK said:
Piece of cr@p if it cant support most hardware IMO.
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Not the fault of Linux, some manufacturers are not open to supporting Linux... just like some XP only supported hardware won't work with Vista if manufacturers don't develop the Vista drivers for it. :p

DJK said:
So Linux is like going backwards then?
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No it's progressing slowly because its free, hello?
 
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DJK said:
Piece of cr@p if it cant support most hardware IMO. So Linux is like going backwards then?
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I've never had a problem with Linux not picking up hardware, even on some old PC. I wouldn't say that, everything can be done from the terminal. Linux falls back on the terminal if the graphics system fails, which then allows you to fix the problem from there. What does windows fall back on? A lame @ss error message! One more thing, Linux terminal VS windows terminal? Windows can't compare.
 
Fsck free, I'll pay for something that works instead.

Sorry guys - not getting at you. Just a little pissed at the fact that I want to change and am prepared to give Linux a shot, but not if I have to have an intimate IT knowledge to do so...
 
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