Ubuntu for phones!

AlphaJohn said:
Looking at how much Ubuntu is trying to copy Apple, I sometimes wonder if old Mark was refused a job at Apple? I mean he so desperately trying to copy key aspects of Apple its not even funny.
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I'm not defending Ubuntu, but this is a first, what is he copying exactly? There is nothing in Ubuntu even remotely similar to iOS, and the same with the Ubuntu for phones, from the video there is nothing even remotely similar to anything on a iPhone. Could you help me out and point to the "key aspects" Canonical is trying to copy?
 
MyWorld said:
I'm not defending Ubuntu, but this is a first, what is he copying exactly? There is nothing in Ubuntu even remotely similar to iOS, and the same with the Ubuntu for phones, from the video there is nothing even remotely similar to anything on a iPhone. Could you help me out and point to the "key aspects" Canonical is trying to copy?
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Its not so much the Look as it is the feel, also the way he does the keynote+talks, its almost asif he is trying to be the next Steve Jobs.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Its not so much the Look as it is the feel, also the way he does the keynote+talks, its almost asif he is trying to be the next Steve Jobs.
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I understand your point and agree with you to a degree AlphaJohn.

I am very excited what this year will hold for Ubuntu. I think it is very innovative and even if Mark does sometimes seem to be a wannabe Steve I believe he has earned respect and could very well be the next Steve Jobs with regards to innovation.

The main difference in my opinion is Apple is profit driven and Ubuntu is community driven. The appproach from the 2 different companies are very different. Apple want to seem to create elite innovative products for the market that can afford that and Ubuntu seem to offer a great cost effective product. They seem to focus more or simplifying and standardising a OS.

Nothing could come from this, or a very interesting future for Ubuntu. I'm leaning towards the latter.
 
MyWorld said:
I'm not defending Ubuntu, but this is a first, what is he copying exactly? There is nothing in Ubuntu even remotely similar to iOS, and the same with the Ubuntu for phones, from the video there is nothing even remotely similar to anything on a iPhone. Could you help me out and point to the "key aspects" Canonical is trying to copy?
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1. Presentation style seems copied as showed earlier in this very thread.
2. I also got the smell, that the menu in Ubuntu on the right on the top bar, where you access the mail and messenger services, was very much the same I would see on MacOS. This is comparing the Desktop OS's not the mobile OS's. Either way, you ask where, not specific to the phone.

Those are just the ones I recalled now, I am sure if I go dig deeper I could go find more, its small things, not the big things that would stand out.
 
What I would like to know is this:

If I have an Android phone that meets the minimum requirements, can I then load Ubuntu Phone OS (or whatever they call it) on the phone or must I buy a phone that comes pre-loaded?

If I could just download and install Ubuntu on it, then I would buy an oldish Android phone now and install it. I'm really itching to play with this new mobile OS.

Here's the official hardware requirements:
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vinodh said:
What I would like to know is this:

If I have an Android phone that meets the minimum requirements, can I then load Ubuntu Phone OS (or whatever they call it) on the phone or must I buy a phone that comes pre-loaded?

If I could just download and install Ubuntu on it, then I would buy an oldish Android phone now and install it. I'm really itching to play with this new mobile OS.

Here's the official hardware requirements:
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Images for the Galaxy Nexus will be made available soon, do not know about hacker community being able to crack it for other phones but you can be sure the moment they open up the source code the gloves is gonna come off all over the world as groups gonna tackle it for all kinds of phones.

Reading the comment all over the place make me think loads of people like this Ubuntu concept phone, only issue I have is the slowness of the OS as seen on The Verge's hands on.
 
vinodh said:
What I would like to know is this:

If I have an Android phone that meets the minimum requirements, can I then load Ubuntu Phone OS (or whatever they call it) on the phone or must I buy a phone that comes pre-loaded?

If I could just download and install Ubuntu on it, then I would buy an oldish Android phone now and install it. I'm really itching to play with this new mobile OS.

Here's the official hardware requirements:
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I also would like to try this. I will be up for a upgrade in a month or two. When I get a new phone I can maybe load this on my Moto RAZR. I hope Canonical and Ubuntu makes it easy to install though. I never could get the hang of flashing custom roms :-(
 
Promising - but dead in the water as soon as Apple licences their OS for other devices.
Impossible? Its their best strategy in the current multi OS environment.
Allthough - theres going to be a load of spare dual and quad core phones in a year or two. Just lying in drawers world wide, looking for a use...
 
Compton_effect said:
Promising - but dead in the water as soon as Apple licences their OS for other devices.
Impossible? Its their best strategy in the current multi OS environment.
Allthough - theres going to be a load of spare dual and quad core phones in a year or two. Just lying in drawers world wide, looking for a use...
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I seriously doubt Apple licensing iOS will make a difference. The only thing desirable about an iPhone is the hardware, from aesthetics point of view and even this has been somewhat reduced with 5. We buy alternatives because we don't like iOS, the walled garden and its maker.
 
Compton_effect said:
Promising - but dead in the water as soon as Apple licences their OS for other devices.
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That simply isn't going to happen, or else you haven't been following these Apple guys for very long have you?

The real problem with this phone Ubuntu is there will be a market, but a vanishingly small one. A long tail of enthusiast hackers. Certainly not enough to run a business on. And small markets means few apps. And apps are the lifeblood of an OS. Smartphone operating systems are at a point where they need to be large just to get by. Windows Phone is decent enough but it can't get a foothold because its app store just isn't equivalent to its competitors'.
 
Compton_effect said:
Promising - but dead in the water as soon as Apple licences their OS for other devices.
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Doubt that will ever happen again, they did it in the past then Steve stopped it as soon as he got back with Apple. Apple sells a package deal and their money comes from the hardware, not so much the OS.
 
There's no app store, so doomed before it even gets released.

I honestly don't know why Mark Shuttleworth went into this direction, maybe he's bored and got too much cash. There's no way you gonna muck around with Google Android, as they don't have navigation, no gmail and no YouTube....and no Play Store. :eek:

But his obsession has always been to beat Apple, so maybe he will chill the faak out once he gets informed that Steve Jobs is not there to torment him anymore.
 
I would like to test this, looks good and practical. Hope it comes out for the Desire HD.
 
Um. I don't know how to tell you this, but Steve is dead. Sorry man. Coming back now would not be good for investor confidence or the company image.

Apple is now another Tech company. And market forces are calling the shots now. Sticking to that model will one day be compared to Henry Ford's refusal to modernise the Model T. And it might not be the best OS, but the consumers like the ecosystem.

ponder said:
Doubt that will ever happen again, they did it in the past then Steve stopped it as soon as he got back with Apple. Apple sells a package deal and their money comes from the hardware, not so much the OS.
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kingrob said:
There's no app store, so doomed before it even gets released.
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Part of the OS and called Ubuntu Software Center, contains both free and commercial apps.
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Velenoso said:
He's looking old. Not enjoying his money?
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Looks like he's going for that 'trendy' stubble look which is probably what makes him look old. Then there is the accent he has acquired...
 
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I suspect that its all about leverage rather than having an actual product:

Ubuntu on Android is an awesome concept but it binds Ubuntu to Google - which isn't in Canonical's interests;
Canonical is investing heavily in ARM porting and construction for datacentres where inevitably puts them into conflict with Google and Microsoft;

bottom line Canonical can't afford not to try its hand at the mobile OS space.
 
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