Ubuntu vs. Vista

Wow... it isn't a stupidly biased Vista bashing :)

Nice review, I think a few of his conclusions are a little bit off but he's basically got it as far as I could tell using the two OS's.
 
If he had tried Kubuntu... and tasted Amarok.... he would have been more convinced :> I cant think of a better music player.
 
Thanks for the link Antowan.

Not biased, but the person doing the writing mentions Ubuntu far more than Vista as if he has always used Linux and is more impressed with the newest version of Ubuntu.

I ordered the Ubuntu CD's about 2 weeks ago. I am going to give Ubuntu a whirl when I have some spare time. :)
Put it another way - I am not going out to purchase Vista, so it is either stay with XP or learn Ubuntu.
 
When you get ubuntu... get rid of the boring default desktop (gnome). Install kubuntu and what ever the latest beryl/xgl desktop for KDE. Wobbly windows are always cool.

Then install amarok and make it your default music player. I am very sure you will be impressed by it.
 
I think its inevitable that these tech reviewers who deal with Linux are more into it that any MS product, especially Vista.

I don't think the music app on Ubuntu should have even been a tie.. if not just for WMP11's looks...
 
When you get ubuntu... get rid of the boring default desktop (gnome). Install kubuntu and what ever the latest beryl/xgl desktop for KDE. Wobbly windows are always cool.

Then install amarok and make it your default music player. I am very sure you will be impressed by it.
Hi Bwana,

When I get around to it can I send you a Private Message.
I am not sure if the shipped CD's will be the Kubuntu version, so I may just need a bit of help on the KDE Desktop although I am sure I will be able to manage. :p

Thanks. :)
Regards,
BTTB.
 
From Ubuntu's Website.
3 CDs requested on 2007-04-12. 3 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2007-04-14. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping. :)
 
I had mine shipped a while back.. it did take a few weeks, I'd almost forgotten about it when they arrived. But great that it can be shipped all around the world for free.

I don't think it will be 6 weeks though, unless there is a huge demand for Feisty..
 
BTTB,

Unless you ordered off the kubuntu website, you're likely to get the standard gnome distribution. It's no biggy though, easy enough to install KDE once you're up and running in gnome.

I second/third what the others are saying -> go KDE.
 
Bwana?:>

www.ubuntuforums.org will be your friend. Just about everything you will need and want to do will be in their wiki or on their forum. Also they have one of the best forum support bases I have ever seen. No question is too noob and they are very helpful.

With my kubuntu system I have a desktop manager that allows me to choose what type of desktop I want to log in as such as kde.. gnome.. fluxbox.. it kinda depends what I need to do, or what I have broken.

One thing I found really impressive about all of this is no matter how many times I broke things, messed up the desktops, reinstalled them... my settings were always just how I had left them.

You are going to love the add and remove programs option.

The only problem I have with ubuntu is gaming support, though I am sure someone is working on that as we speak.
 
But there's at least as much about Ubuntu that I find disheartening or frustrating. There are still too many places where you have to drop to a command line and type in a fairly unintuitive set of commands to get something done, or edit a config file, or -- worst of all -- download and compile source code. For a beginner, this last is the kiss of death, because if compiling code fails, a beginner will almost certainly have no idea what to do next.
I think that says it all. Linux will only be seen as a true competitor to Windows when they finally do away with that infernal command line.
 
Yeah saw this, I am still very happy with my Ubuntu with gnome, and beryl/xgl and I even installed Amarok, only needed to get the KDE libs, e voila. I would consider going kde as I am more familiar with kde, use it at work. But for the best part of working gnome and beryl/xgl work nice, I love seeing peoples faces when i drag windows and watch movies on different desktops, and switch via the cube! You can just see the "I want this!" look on them!

:)
 
From my various readings of things Linux related the general theme is that it does not want to be another Windows. It is what it is and as such it is unlikely things like the command line will ever be done away with.

Although there are a multitude of GUI apps like Synaptic to install programs, I still find my first port of call is the command line and an issue of apt-get or aptitude.
 
Why do away with the command line? Windows still has it....

You take your pick: bash away at the terminal (pun intended), or be a dumb user. From what I can see, Feisty will allow you to be both.

I definitely see Ubuntu as wanting to be a serious rival to Windoze. Once you are happy on Ubuntu, there are more purist distro's to get your teeth into.

I already have a copy of feisty (I still prefer KDE) installed. Looks very Windows_user targeted. But very impressive, glossy and good to look at.

Basically, anything that gives the computer desktop user choice can only be a good thing, even if you are _shudder_ a 'die hard Windows fan'

Like somebody said to me: "Linux is a proper operating system".
 
The Windows vs. Linux fight will only be won by strength of numbers. However, Linux will only win if it is good enough to use. It will only be good enough when it has dominant support. i.e. NEVER
It's a vicious cycle.
 
Skeptik - The general linux theme is not that it is looking to replace MS, but to provide a viable alternative to the people who are willing to take the time and effort to learn using another OS. Given this it is thus unlikely to be a mainstream consumer OS. And I don't think the powers that be particularly want it to be a mainstream OS. As such commercial gaming on linux will always be limited as game manufacturers will most likely, on the whole, not see that market as being worthwhile.
 
The Windows vs. Linux fight will only be won by strength of numbers. However, Linux will only win if it is good enough to use. It will only be good enough when it has dominant support. i.e. NEVER
It's a vicious cycle.
There is another alternative. Windows becomes unaffordable which results in a Linux uptake. Make no bones about it, Windows is expensive, which is why MS are releasing starter editions etc to try and stop the uptake of Linux. MS have a problem, what they would really like is to charge different prices in different locations around the world. Like a $2 fee in China and a $200 fee in the US. The only way around it is to release limited versions for the "cheaper" markets. As you can see from the 244 sales in China, it's not working so well. Also, large corporates are starting to get Linux because of the massive yearly costs that they have to pay MS. I remember reading that the annual saving for one government department (not local) switching to Linux/OpenOffice was about $4 million.
 
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