UHD for home PC

[Dolby]

Aside from the monitor and Internet speed - is there anything else I need to know, will prevent it working or bottleneck it ?

This isn't for gaming - maybe just YouTube videos.

New GFX card with HDMI 2.0 ?
Does processor and RAM have anything do to with it?
Windows 10 in general and photos I've taken will be more crisp?

 

[Wasabee!]

Yo homes list your full current setup if you are upgrading. Also what is your budget and interwebz speed now that we know your requirement of 4k porn, I mean "Youtube".

 

[Barbarian Conan]

Aside from the monitor and Internet speed - is there anything else I need to know, will prevent it working or bottleneck it ?

This isn't for gaming - maybe just YouTube videos.

New GFX card with HDMI 2.0 ?
Does processor and RAM have anything do to with it?
Windows 10 in general and photos I've taken will be more crisp?

Not really, not with reasonably modern components.

In windows you can decide whether you want to scale your desktop so have the same amount of real estate and crisper icons, or if you want to keep it at 100%, have the extra real estate (up to 4 x as much as full HD) and have everything super small. I prefer the 100% option.

4K have shown me that cellphone photos are much worse than I previously thought. I can at a glance tell which was taken with my DSLR and my cellphone, even in near perfect conditions.

 

[Dolby]

Thanks for the replies.

I have UHD currently (Samsung QLED / 50Mbps Internet) - so I the streaming is not the issue.

I'd like to buy a Samsung QLED monitor as well though ... and it really will be YouTube and obviously general things like the photos etc. I'm not a gamer and I won't really be watching movies on my PC.

The PC is old - but it works for me (3570K processor, 8GB , SSD etc), so I'm wondering the best way forward to get UHD to the PC. My thinking was only the monitor and the display card needs to be changed? And (I'm hoping) that as it's not gaming, I won't need a card costing multiple thousand Rand?

 

[Barbarian Conan]

Thanks for the replies.

I have UHD currently (Samsung QLED / 50Mbps Internet) - so I the streaming is not the issue.

I'd like to buy a Samsung QLED monitor as well though ... and it really will be YouTube and obviously general things like the photos etc. I'm not a gamer and I won't really be watching movies on my PC.

The PC is old - but it works for me (3570K processor, 8GB , SSD etc), so I'm wondering the best way forward to get UHD to the PC. My thinking was only the monitor and the display card needs to be changed? And (I'm hoping) that as it's not gaming, I won't need a card costing multiple thousand Rand?

I run a i7 2600K, so your CPU won't be an issue, and even with my older GPU there wasn't an issue at all.
You can also just lug your case to your TV and test it out?

 

[Dolby]

You can also just lug your case to your TV and test it out?

I still need the GFX card though ; the card that's in it is also from 2012ish - so a new card is a must.

I just have zero idea where to start ...

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

Yo homes list your full current setup if you are upgrading. Also what is your budget and interwebz speed now that we know your requirement of 4k porn, I mean "Youtube".

4k pron is terrible, too much detail, i like it a little vague, slightly out of focus. Viva VHS porn FTW

 

[Barbarian Conan]

I still need the GFX card though ; the card that's in it is also from 2012ish - so a new card is a must.

I just have zero idea where to start ...

Anything with HDMI 2.0 and or DisplayPort 1.2 should do fine. Just check those version numbers, as I'm quoting from memory.
I think nVidia 9xx and up or AMD R9 xxx, 4xxx and 5xxx should do fine.
Hell, I think most laptops with intel onboard graphics can run 4K fine.

 

[Dolby]

Anything with HDMI 2.0 and or DisplayPort 1.2 should do fine. Just check those version numbers, as I'm quoting from memory.
I think nVidia 9xx and up or AMD R9 xxx, 4xxx and 5xxx should do fine.
Hell, I think most laptops with intel onboard graphics can run 4K fine.

Ah that's good news !

Thanks !

 

[Dolby]

This is less than R800.00 and HDMI 2.0 ?

AMD Radeon R5230 - 1024MB GDDR3, 64-Bit Memory Bus, PCI Express 2.0, 1x Dual-Link DVI-D, 1x D-Sub, 1x HDMI 2.0b, Core: 625MHz | Memory: 1066MHz

 

[sajunky]

This is less than R800.00 and HDMI 2.0 ?

AMD Radeon R5230 - 1024MB GDDR3, 64-Bit Memory Bus, PCI Express 2.0, 1x Dual-Link DVI-D, 1x D-Sub, 1x HDMI 2.0b, Core: 625MHz | Memory: 1066MHz

Do you mean R5 230 renamed to HD6450? This one is old, do not support modern video formats HEVC/VP9, nor HDMI 2.0. It might be something new that cheap, but I can't help with Radeon.

With NVidia any 1000-series card will do with full support of video decoding and DX12, DisplaPort/HDMI 2.0 4k output. The cheapest one is GT1030 R1300. Some older series are also suitable, but cost more (even second hand) and consume more power.

As for a question of crispi, 4k output is only digital, so it depends purely on the monitor. You may have an idea if you magnify picture 2x to see 1/4 of the pic on Full HD screen.

 

[Dolby]

Do you mean R5 230 renamed to HD6450? This one is old, do not support modern video formats HEVC/VP9, nor HDMI 2.0. It might be something new that cheap, but I can't help with Radeon.

With NVidia any 1000-series card will do with full support of video decoding and DX12, DisplaPort/HDMI 2.0 4k output. The cheapest one is GT1030 R1300. Some older series are also suitable, but cost more (even second hand) and consume more power.

As for a question of crispi, 4k output is only digital, so it depends purely on the monitor. You may have an idea if you magnify picture 2x to see 1/4 of the pic on Full HD screen.

I really don't know it's renamed. I went to PC International and selected the cheapest GFX card with an HDMI 2.0 port (their site says it is HDMI2.0)

I won't bother with the monitor, until I'm 100% sure the whole solution is going to work. I don't want to spend cash and then realize that I need to spend more.

 

[sajunky]

I really don't know it's renamed. I went to PC International and selected the cheapest GFX card with an HDMI 2.0 port (their site says it is HDMI2.0)

Yes I see it on the pcint list, also it seems the same there: https://www.pcexpress.co.za/amd-rad...ink-1x-dvi-i-1x-dvi-d-1x-hdmi-1x-display-port

Note a difference between address line and inside. The same mistake may be with HDMI description given by no-name Chineese manufacturer. Real specs for HD6450 Graphics is there: http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/6000/6450

In my opinion it is not worth a risk. No serious GFX should come with 1GB RAM. When GT1030 came out people started to argue, it would not be able to decode 4k video with 2GB RAM. Whether a reasoning was correct or not, I don't know, but the card works perfectly with any 4k movie format I had in HP Microserver (scaling down to FHD monitor). See: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/hp-proliant-microserver.333460/page-352

GT1030 gives you much more you ever need. It is a cheapest in 1000 series and is feature proof for the next 5 years or more. When you start looking for 8k monitor, it will be a time to upgrade a card too.