UK Elections 2016

[TriGuN]

Those African Americans you mention must be pretty European then...

25% on average



Thanks so much for wasting all of our time by coming back to the retarded "out of Africa" argument.
So... 10 000 yrs ago when the channel was frozen my ancestors came from Europe.. so they share European DNA...
And? What else were you expecting?
Most of that sht isn't traced to the invasions, merely the initial migration. Learn to read.

And so the argument goes.. Well Europeans actually came from the Middle East... Middle Easterns actually came from Africa... and that is why "races", "ethnicities" and "natives" don't exist.
/Facepalm

Apparently 10 000 yrs isn't long enough to be considered a native, is that correct?
Certainly 1500 yrs can't be, because that would mean that even if we were all 100% Anglo Saxons then we would still be natives, and that would fk up your whole argument.

Our genetic clusters are distinctive from other Europeans, but that's not good enough?
We need to pretend that the computer is not able to sort us into groups?

 

[Dave]

Ahh...that explains it. There always a section of the immigrant population that have the most anti immigrant stances.

I feel for you man, being a non native British in the current political climate. Having to choose between outing yourself, or joining the crowds and pointing to the more obvious looking immigrants.

I won't judge, I understand.

lol

You'll have him worked up to a frenzied froth with that sort of logic.

Psychiatrists would probably categorise it as a form of self loathing .

 

[Xarog]

25% on average



Thanks so much for wasting all of our time by coming back to the retarded "out of Africa" argument.
So... 10 000 yrs ago when the channel was frozen my ancestors came from Europe.. so they share European DNA...
And? What else were you expecting?
Most of that sht isn't traced to the invasions, merely the initial migration. Learn to read.

And so the argument goes.. Well Europeans actually came from the Middle East... Middle Easterns actually came from Africa... and that is why "races", "ethnicities" and "natives" don't exist.
/Facepalm

Apparently 10 000 yrs isn't long enough to be considered a native, is that correct?
Certainly 1500 yrs can't be, because that would mean that even if we were all 100% Anglo Saxons then we would still be natives, and that would fk up your whole argument.

Our genetic clusters are distinctive from other Europeans, but that's not good enough?
We need to pretend that the computer is not able to sort us into groups?

You can have a computer sort people by the colour of their eyes or the colour of their hair, too, and you can find the genetic markers to go along with those traits. So what makes those categories any more arbitrary?

 

[TriGuN]

Right, but I can't see how anyone would think that fascists made any kind of meaningful contribution to civilisation...

How long was fascism in power before it was forcefully dismantled from the outside?
It accomplished plenty during that time.

What has Sweden accomplished lately?
Germany?
Italy?

You can have a computer sort people by the colour of their eyes or the colour of their hair, too, and you can find the genetic markers to go along with those traits. So what makes those categories any more arbitrary?

They're clusters.

Ahh...that explains it. There always a section of the immigrant population that have the most anti immigrant stances.

True.
Not all immigrant groups are equal. Everybody knows that, including the immigrants.

 

[Xarog]

How long was fascism in power before it was forcefully dismantled from the outside?
It accomplished plenty during that time.

What has Sweden accomplished lately?
Germany?
Italy?

You tell me.

They're clusters.

What difference is that supposed to make?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

How long was fascism in power before it was forcefully dismantled from the outside?
It accomplished plenty during that time.

What has Sweden accomplished lately?
Germany?
Italy?

They're clusters.

They haven't invaded or executed anybody recently. Quite an accomplishment, really. Even books are relatively safe.

 

[Dave]

How long was fascism in power before it was forcefully dismantled from the outside?
It accomplished plenty during that time.

What where these accomplishments that you appear to admire?

 

[TriGuN]

They haven't invaded or executed anybody recently. Quite an accomplishment, really. Even books are relatively safe.

Yeah. Too busy bending over.

 

[Xarog]

Yeah. Too busy bending over.

When I said, "you tell me", I wasn't being facetious. You're remarkably short on details.

It would seem that the only thing that you can point to in terms of what you admire about them is that they were a bunch of violent pillocks. If it's simply that you think humanity strengthens itself through trauma, why don't you stab yourself in the head a few times and see how much smarter that makes you?

 

[TriGuN]

What difference is that supposed to make?

You're going to have to tell me how you think genetic clusters that differentiate ethnicities are "arbitrary".

 

[Dave]

@TriGuN

Which is your favourite UK political group?

UKIP, BNP, EDL or Britain First?

 

[JayM]

@TriGuN

Which is your favourite UK political group?

UKIP, BNP, EDL or Britain First?

 

[Xarog]

You're going to have to tell me how you think genetic clusters that differentiate ethnicities are "arbitrary".

Simple. There are many many many other clusters of genes that have far more impact on an individual than the ones you've chosen which correlate with the subjective construct termed "ethnicity" and the arbitrary categories that we've created to distinguish these supposed ethnicities.

Why are they supposed to matter any more than the geno/phenotypes that underpin eye colour, hair colour, nose length, and so on ad nauseam?

 

[TriGuN]

When I said, "you tell me", I wasn't being facetious. You're remarkably short on details.

If I feel like defending fascism I'll start a thread. It's incredibly involved.

 

[Dave]

If I feel like defending fascism I'll start a thread. It's incredibly involved.

How about all their excellent accomplishments? They can't be all that involved to list...

 

[Xarog]

If I feel like defending fascism I'll start a thread. It's incredibly involved.

Ok, in the meantime I'll dismiss your claims that fascism has contributed to Western civilisation.

But should you ever get around to making that thread, feel free to let me know. May I advise that you start it in the philosophy section, though?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

@TriGuN

Which is your favourite UK political group?

UKIP, BNP, EDL or Britain First?

Those left wing surrender monkeys....pfft

 

[TriGuN]

Simple. There are many many many other clusters of genes that have far more impact on an individual than the ones you've chosen which correlate with the subjective construct termed "ethnicity" and the arbitrary categories that we've created to distinguish these supposed ethnicities.

Why are they supposed to matter any more than the geno/phenotypes that underpin eye colour, hair colour, nose length, and so on ad nauseam?

I could defend the significance of the effect of genetic clusters associated with ethnicities I suppose.
I don't really see why I need to do that though.

The idea that I don't have an ethnicity and/or I'm not a native "because Anglo Saxons" 1500 yrs ago makes no sense.
There are far more recent ethnicities than that, obviously.

That argument is the reason we are even talking about ethnicities and genetics.

 

[Xarog]

I could defend the significance of the effect of genetic clusters associated with ethnicities I suppose.
I don't really see why I need to do that though.

The idea that I don't have an ethnicity and/or I'm not a native "because Anglo Saxons" 1500 yrs ago makes no sense.
There are far more recent ethnicities than that, obviously.

That argument is the reason we are even talking about ethnicities and genetics.

It's not that you don't have one, it's just that the question of ethnicity is fscking irrelevant. We're all family, cousin.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

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