UK/US Hypocracy?

[sox63]

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=303970&area=/insight/insight__international/

As disgusting as whats going in Zimbabwe, it exactly becuase of reports like this one that I tend to think of US/UK comments on the situation in Zim as ridiculous.

Their silence on Pakistan and it's "legitimate" goverment, is inexplicable! They should rather keep quiet, becuase I for one really don't take it seriously.

IMO it becomes clear that the people of Zimbabwe are the only ones that can change the situation in their country. Yes, we can argue that Mbeki should be more vocal, and more sanctions should be put on the country, however how will that change the mindset of the Zanu-PF goverment? They don't seem to be bothered with the level of sanctions currently in place, and the economy is really already in the gutter.

What else is there to do? Notta! The guys just need to reach a point of the majority of the country says "enough is enough"

 

[w1z4rd]

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=303970&area=/insight/insight__international/

As disgusting as whats going in Zimbabwe, it exactly becuase of reports like this one that I tend to think of US/UK comments on the situation in Zim as ridiculous.

Their silence on Pakistan and it's "legitimate" goverment, is inexplicable! They should rather keep quiet, becuase I for one really don't take it seriously.

IMO it becomes clear that the people of Zimbabwe are the only ones that can change the situation in their country. Yes, we can argue that Mbeki should be more vocal, and more sanctions should be put on the country, however how will that change the mindset of the Zanu-PF goverment? They don't seem to be bothered with the level of sanctions currently in place, and the economy is really already in the gutter.

What else is there to do? Notta! The guys just need to reach a point of the majority of the country says "enough is enough"

Thats the pot and kettle story again.

Sox: South Africa in this case is the pot. We SUPPLY Mugabe with electricity. We voted AGAINST human rights in Burma in our first vote in the UN.

I think we should get our own house in order before we start shouting foul. I would be very very careful about shouting hypocrisy if I was you.

 

[sox63]

Thats the pot and kettle story again.

Sox: South Africa in this case is the pot. We SUPPLY Mugabe with electricity. We voted AGAINST human rights in Burma in our first vote in the UN.

I think we should get our own house in order before we start shouting foul. I would be very very careful about shouting hypocrisy if I was you.

I was refering to the hypocracy by the US/UK, and I did acknowladge that SA can play a greater role to play, however is it going to be effective?

And as far as I know they pay for that electricity, that Eskom supplies them. Cutting it would plunge the people of Zim into far deeper suffering.

 

[w1z4rd]

I was refering to the hypocracy by the US/UK, and I did acknowladge that SA can play a greater role to play, however is it going to be effective?

South Africa used to be a beacon of hope to a lot of the world. For goodness sakes, we had a serious ideological regime change on mostly passive resistance, and as far as I know only two countries have been able to do this. We then constructed one of most liberal constitutions in the world that has had books written about it. South Africa was a shining example to Africa and the rest of the world.

It didnt take long for the government to be bought out though. Now we pay lip service to countries with the most terrible human rights abuse records and vote against human rights.

I dont blame the world to start looking at us with skepticism.

And as far as I know they pay for that electricity, that Eskom supplies them. Cutting it would plunge the people of Zim into far deeper suffering.

As the people of Zimbabwe have said... they dont care. They have asked for the power to be cut. The same as what the ANC freedom fighters said to the rest of the world when the worlds was considering sanctions against the Apartheid regime.

 

[Syndyre]

I was refering to the hypocracy by the US/UK, and I did acknowladge that SA can play a greater role to play, however is it going to be effective?

And as far as I know they pay for that electricity, that Eskom supplies them. Cutting it would plunge the people of Zim into far deeper suffering.

Last I heard Zim owed Eskom millions and has massive unpaid bills, don't have a source though and I'm too tired to search for one.

 

[kilo39]

Their silence on Pakistan and it's "legitimate" goverment, is inexplicable! They should rather keep quiet, becuase I for one really don't take it seriously.

The great tragedy is the hypocrisy the US/UK embody by their leaders, George Bush (and crew,) and Tony Blair (and crew, when you see them.) They have blown it and George at least knows it (witness the Brazilian Nightclub Jive ) and Condi's sudden miraculous solving of talks in the middle east. Hyprocrasy (ja, all of a sudden in three weeks they can fix it, and George is a groovy guy really, I mean sometimes he even takes off his tie!) HYPOCRISY. While they fight false wars based on lies. Hypocrites. How many times can I say it?

SO. They really don't have a lot to say (and I could get to a point where I start believing Bob ) although there is no sanctioning his brutality (and I dread to think what some peeps are going through RIGHT NOW.) So, Mbeki. Phhht. Woe the people of Zimbabwe.