UK Work Visa

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This may be of interest to anyone who is looking at moving to the uk in the near future.

Its common knowledge now that they will be doing away with the 2 year working holiday visa in the UK, so the only option now (unless u have a EU passport/family permit) is a UK work permit.

New measures aimed at cutting the number of foreign workers coming to the UK from outside the EU are due to be announced later.

The types of businesses which can use non-EU workers because of skill or labour shortages will be listed.

It means employers whose jobs are not on the list will find it more difficult to bring in foreign workers in future.

The government says this system is more effective than simply bringing in limits on overall numbers.

The shortage occupation list has been compiled by the Migration Advisory Committee.

Professor David Metcalf, the chairman of the Migration Advisory Committee, said that an employer would have to meet three hurdles to be able to hire somebody from outside Europe.

"Firstly the job has got to be skilled, secondly there has got to be a shortage, and thirdly and perhaps most importantly, it has to be sensible to bring a person in - there we are looking at the tension between the short-run fix of bringing immigrants in and the long-run need to upskill the economy," he said.

The changes, which involved looking at 12 different indicators, will result in a more skilled labour supply, he added.

According to the list, maths and science teachers are still needed, but teachers with other subjects will face restrictions.

Midwives, social workers and IT technicians from outside the EU are all no longer needed, according to the list.

Only care workers earning at least ÂŁ8.80 an hour will be allowed to come to Britain from later this year - a salary level most care-home owners will not be able to pay.

"It is so far above what the medium pay levels are within care homes for senior care workers, it is just not going to be achievable," said Mandy Thorn, a board member of the National Care Association.

She said the sector has tried to recruit from the UK and Europe but had not been able to attract sufficient numbers. More staff are needed to support a growing number of vulnerable people, she added.

Occupations which are allowed to use foreign workers due to shortages include ship and hovercraft officers and racehorse trainers.

There is also a shortage of skilled chefs, civil and chemical engineers and veterinary surgeons, while quantity surveyors and project managers are needed for property development and construction.

In Scotland, the list includes manual filleters of frozen fish, senior nurses in care of elderly units, and speech and language therapists.

Some other occupations in the hospitality and construction industries were considered by the MAC but rejected from the final list.

On Sunday an all-party group of MPs called for "balanced migration" and four-year limits for foreign workers.

The group said Britain will not be able to cope with an estimated seven million additional migrants forecast to arrive by 2031.
 
When are they actually bringing the 2 year working holiday visa to an end?
 
According to this http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/tier5/ after November you'll need to apply for the Tier 5 Youth Mobility Scheme - if SA is eligible. IIRC they need to have a reciprocal arrangement in place.

What I have heard is that south africans wont be eligible for the Youth Mobility scheme as the SA government is not very keen to participate with the intuitive.
 
If your application for a 2 year working holiday visa is accepted what is the time frame for when you must make use of it. Can you leave S.A a few months after your application is accepted
 
If your application for a 2 year working holiday visa is accepted what is the time frame for when you must make use of it. Can you leave S.A a few months after your application is accepted

yep you can and the approval process is fast at just over a week now.Also the 2 years only start on your first entry into the UK afaik.
 
yep you can and the approval process is fast at just over a week now.Also the 2 years only start on your first entry into the UK afaik.

So you can circumvent the new points system if you act now :D
 
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This is good news in my opinion.

1) Will keep the riff-raff South Africans, that just finished school and think they are on top of the world, out of Europe.
2) Will force abovementioned riff-raff to rather go and study and increase their qualifications, so that they enter the business world with good skills, and not remain riff-raff.
3) Will force South Africans to rather solve their problems in SA, and not run away.
 
This is good news in my opinion.

1) Will keep the riff-raff South Africans, that just finished school and think they are on top of the world, out of Europe.
2) Will force abovementioned riff-raff to rather go and study and increase their qualifications, so that they enter the business world with good skills, and not remain riff-raff.
3) Will force South Africans to rather solve their problems in SA, and not run away.

LOL. Don't some youngsters go over there to get in touch with their cultural roots, at least the whities. I'm ambiguous about the new rulings, it won't affect me in the least but it is evident of a changing world where instead of being open, borders are actually being closed off to stave off competition.
 
^ Sigh, there isn't a single thread these days that doesn't get contaminated by the trol.
 
This is good news in my opinion.

1) Will keep the riff-raff South Africans, that just finished school and think they are on top of the world, out of Europe.
2) Will force abovementioned riff-raff to rather go and study and increase their qualifications, so that they enter the business world with good skills, and not remain riff-raff.
3) Will force South Africans to rather solve their problems in SA, and not run away.

Says the man sitting in Dusseldorf.

Skinner, don't you always brag about how you're out of the country gaining experience and making money?
 
Says the man sitting in Dusseldorf.

Skinner, don't you always brag about how you're out of the country gaining experience and making money?

I'm curious.
Please define "not inside a country", referring to the folllowing cases:
Person A flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 day.
Person B flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 week.
Person C flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 month.
Person D flies for work to a non-SA country for 6 months.
Person E flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 year.

Or shall we rather measure it like this:
Person A lives and works in a non-SA country 5% of one year.
Person B lives and works in a non-SA country 10% of one year.
Person C lives and works in a non-SA country 25% of one year.
Person D lives and works in a non-SA country 50% of one year.
Person E lives and works in a non-SA country 100% of one year.

While in the non-SA country, said Person raises comments and suggestions about SA, emmigration, etc.

So, without necessarily being aware of my particular case, which one of the above shall serve to officially disquality any Person A~E from raising comments about SA, notwithstanding the extra experience and perspective the person actually gains by travelling and living around and comparing it to living in SA?

Please provide official proof of definition / measurements as provided by state or this forum. Thanks.
 
I'm curious.
Please define "not inside a country", referring to the folllowing cases:
Person A flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 day.
Person B flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 week.
Person C flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 month.
Person D flies for work to a non-SA country for 6 months.
Person E flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 year.

Or shall we rather measure it like this:
Person A lives and works in a non-SA country 5% of one year.
Person B lives and works in a non-SA country 10% of one year.
Person C lives and works in a non-SA country 25% of one year.
Person D lives and works in a non-SA country 50% of one year.
Person E lives and works in a non-SA country 100% of one year.

While in the non-SA country, said Person raises comments and suggestions about SA, emmigration, etc.

So, without necessarily being aware of my particular case, which one of the above shall serve to officially disquality any Person A~E from raising comments about SA, notwithstanding the extra experience and perspective the person actually gains by travelling and living around and comparing it to living in SA?

Please provide official proof of definition / measurements as provided by state or this forum. Thanks.
FFS why dont you just make that stupid excuse your sig so you dont have to keep posting it in every thread.

I left SA soon after I finished school, went back home saw what pathetic opportunities there were for work and came back here.Have had friends follow my lead and now are enjoying the benefits of living here.
 
This may be of interest to anyone who is looking at moving to the uk in the near future.

Its common knowledge now that they will be doing away with the 2 year working holiday visa in the UK, so the only option now (unless u have a EU passport/family permit) is a UK work permit.
You have tier 1 and tier 2 as options. Tier 1 is essentially the highly skilled migrant program option.

The working holiday was never a way to move to the UK, and if you were planning to do so a holiday visa would do just as well.
 
I'm curious.
Please define "not inside a country", referring to the folllowing cases:
Person A flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 day.
Person B flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 week.
Person C flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 month.
Person D flies for work to a non-SA country for 6 months.
Person E flies for work to a non-SA country for 1 year.

Or shall we rather measure it like this:
Person A lives and works in a non-SA country 5% of one year.
Person B lives and works in a non-SA country 10% of one year.
Person C lives and works in a non-SA country 25% of one year.
Person D lives and works in a non-SA country 50% of one year.
Person E lives and works in a non-SA country 100% of one year.

While in the non-SA country, said Person raises comments and suggestions about SA, emmigration, etc.

So, without necessarily being aware of my particular case, which one of the above shall serve to officially disquality any Person A~E from raising comments about SA, notwithstanding the extra experience and perspective the person actually gains by travelling and living around and comparing it to living in SA?

Please provide official proof of definition / measurements as provided by state or this forum. Thanks.

Well, I don't know if this will answer your question :)

SARS uses the following to determine if a person should be taxed as a SOUTH AFRICAN citizen...

Following requirements are necessary to be called a SA Citizen:
You had to be living in SA for

1. 91 days in the current year.
2. 91 days in the previous 5 years before the current year.
3. A total of 915 days in the previous 5 years before the current year.

Maybe if you adhere to these requirements your qualified to raising comments about SA, notwithstanding the extra experience and perspective the person actually gains by travelling and living around and comparing it to living in SA?

I hope I answered your question?
 
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Well, I don't know if this will answer your question :)

SARS uses the following to determine if a person should be taxed as a SOUTH AFRICAN citizen...

Following requirements are necessary to be called a SA Citizen:
You had to be living in SA for

1. 91 days in the current year.
2. 91 days in the previous 5 years before the current year.
3. A total of 915 days in the previous 5 years before the current year.
Well, then I pass i.e. I should be taxed as a SOUTH AFRICAN citizen, even if we consider this "guideline" applicable in this situation as well.
So, now that we have established that my opinions are valid, may I please post in piece?
 
Well, then I pass i.e. I should be taxed as a SOUTH AFRICAN citizen, even if we consider this "guideline" applicable in this situation as well.
So, now that we have established that my opinions are valid, may I please post in piece?

Valid for one poster. And yes, your posts in lots of pieces will be much appreciated:cool:
 
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