Uncapped local has arrived

A guy I met at a bus stop told me that someone he met at a bar knew a person who told him that his brother in-law's friend who works next door to a Telkom shop told him of this at a party on new year's eve.

So it must be true.
 
bekdik said:
A guy I met at a bus stop told me that someone he met at a bar knew a person who told him that his brother in-law's friend who works next door to a Telkom shop told him of this at a party on new year's eve.

So it must be true.
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:) yeah, I think we got a bit too excited too quickly on that one.. :p
 
There seems to be a problem with the stats pages on some peoples accounts, I dont believe this is a problem thats affecting capping though.
 
I shall check back here tomorrow to see what has transpired but like I said, I am really not expecting much...
 
Logically this has to happen.

What we do know is that telkom have been spending a lot of cash upgrading the local infrastructure and at the same time voicing their VOD / IPTV ambitions.
In order for that to work they will have to be able to differentiate local from international access, as well as offer uncapped to local.

In the environment of a significant VOD / IPTV uptake, the odd local p2p network traffic will be insignificant to the total amount of bandwidth needed.

But thats logic and this is telkom so who knows.
 
Daveogg said:
Logically this has to happen.

What we do know is that telkom have been spending a lot of cash upgrading the local infrastructure and at the same time voicing their VOD / IPTV ambitions.
In order for that to work they will have to be able to differentiate local from international access, as well as offer uncapped to local.

In the environment of a significant VOD / IPTV uptake, the odd local p2p network traffic will be insignificant to the total amount of bandwidth needed.

But thats logic and this is telkom so who knows.
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Its not as easy as you make it sound.

For Telkom, the VOD/IPTV scenario can easily be solved by using seperate ADSL login sessions, therefore seperate traffic accounting i.e. IPTV STB logs into a closed video serving network with seperate credentials to your PC for normal capped Internet access.

If you roughly understand the currrent architecture of Telkom ADSL network, it would be apparent that it is a very difficult technical task to account for local & intl traffic seperately within the same login session. This is mainly due to where in the network the traffic accounting stats are collected ... currently at the IP access edge of the ADSL network (on the Cisco ESR routers).

The big problem at this point in your access path (the virtual PPP interface on the ESR feeding your ADSL line) is that it is unknown whether inbound/outbound packet are destined for/originate from local or international, so how do you know whether to count them for the cap or not? (assuming you should only be counting intl)

I myself am very interested to see how Telkom tackle this problem.
 
Roman i hear what you say, but IIRC at the Icasa ADSL hearings when telkom was tackled on this point, they in fact admitted that it was possible to differentiate the traffic.

Even with how useless Icasa is, Telkom are going to battle to justify uncapped local video streaming from a specific VOD / IPTV server and not uncap other local access.
 
Roman4604 said:
Its not as easy as you make it sound.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't local uncapped a while back till November 2005???

How come it was so easy to do it then but now it's so difficult?? Makes no sense...or is it that all their skill sets have left.
 
Chavez said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't local uncapped a while back till November 2005???

How come it was so easy to do it then but now it's so difficult?? Makes no sense...or is it that all their skill sets have left.
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What is being discussed here is slightly different. They are talking about having local not count towards the cap while you still have international cap left. So then ONLY the international traffic counts towards the cap.

What you mentioned above is how it was, but before you reached your 3gb cap ALL traffic counted towards that 3gb. Then after you go over the cap, you have unlimited local access.

They are 2 very different things. One is unlimited local after international has been capped and the other is, only international is subject to the 3gb cap.
 
So the question is... Can anyone confirm this?

Wonder if IS will be implementing this as well, could be interesting as uncapped local with their news server could really strain their network...
 
Chavez said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't local uncapped a while back till November 2005???

How come it was so easy to do it then but now it's so difficult?? Makes no sense...or is it that all their skill sets have left.
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Correct.

As far as Telkom Internet is concerned:

Originally there was no cap.
Then it was local uncapped as the cost of international was so high.
Then it was dead capped.
Now it's average usage because Telkom are such generous folk.
 
bekdik said:
Surely they can just supply this on a separate subnet which is restricted to specific servers/services?
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Technically easy to do, but surely even Icasa wont let them get away with saying you are uncapped to "our" servers, but capped to anyone elses, when it states clearly local must be uncapped.

Ultimately telkom justifies it use of capping to "protect" the network from the effects of a small minority who "abuse" network resources(telkoms words not mine). If telkom now has a network able to accomodate a significant number of IPTV streams, then this argument falls away and their is no logical reason (apart from blatant anticompetitive practices) to keep local capped.
 
Hi,

Can anyone confirm if this is true? Topic just went dead...

Thx
Proff
 
Why doesnt someone just take an hour out of their day and phone telkom helpline? ;)
 
Someone in my thread in ADSL ISP section said they got capped at 15GB
 
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