Unfair dismissal?

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This isn't me, but I need help.

Person recently started at a new job in a management position. They are capable of doing the job and have done a good job so far (very early days).

However, as they are younger than the people they manage, some have taken umbrage and resigned (probably because they wanted said position).

So today this person was given notice, as the Boss feels they need the other employees and thus is getting rid of the manager, to appease the others.

Is this a fair dismissal? The manager hasn't done anything wrong other than being younger than those they manage. The boss is happy with their work, they have made positive changes and improved the situation of things.

So is this fair? Is there any recourse?
 
What are the grounds of dismissal? There is no grounds.
 
That's my initial thought too, but I'm not knowledgable enough in that area.

The person is technically on probation as they are new. Seems weird to me though.
 
Absolutely it is an unfair dismissal. However, your friend needs evidence. I would go speak to the CCMA and open a case the moment he/she is able.

How did the employer carry out the termination?
 
Absolutely it is an unfair dismissal. However, your friend needs evidence. I would go speak to the CCMA and open a case the moment he/she is able.

How did the employer carry out the termination?

Verbally in a meeting this morning.

Busy trying to get more info. Obviously they're fairly distraught because they've been blindsided with this.
 
This can only fly if it is a retrenchment.
And because he hasn't worked long enough, he does really get a retrenchment package.
 
if I recall, if they on probation, CCMA will laugh at them,

normal rules dont apply during probation...

Maybe so. I found this.

http://www.labourguide.co.za/most-recent/922-probation33

Probation
André Claassen & Jan du Toit
Probation is dealt with in terms of the Code of Good Practice – Dismissal, contained in Schedule 8 to the Labour Relations Act. This document states as follows:
(1) A newly hired employee may be placed on probation for a period that is reasonable given the circumstances of the job. The period should be determined by the nature of the job, and the time it takes to determine the employee's suitability for continued employment.
Quite obviously, the lawmakers have no desire to prescribe to employers regarding the duration of the probation period. Thus, they leave it to the employer to define the duration, stating only that it should be reasonable and in relation to the circumstances of the job. Thus, the employer decides this matter.
There is nothing to indicate that the new employee must be employed on probation - that is for the employer to decide. Employees can also be employed without a stipulated probationary period. The Code states further:
“When appropriate, an employer should give an employee whatever evaluation, instruction; training, guidance or counselling the employee requires to render satisfactory service.
Dismissal during the probationary period should be preceded by an opportunity for the employee to state a case in response and to be assisted by a trade union representative or fellow employee. “
This means that the probationer’s performance must be monitored from day one, and any shortcomings in work performance must be addressed, by giving the employee the necessary evaluation, counselling, instruction, training and guidance in order to assist him to achieve and maintain the required work performance standard.
In addition the employee must be given an opportunity to state what he thinks is the cause of the non-performance, and what he thinks should be done in order to overcome the problem. The foregoing is a requirement. It must be done. The code continues by stating:
“(2) After probation, an employee should not be dismissed for unsatisfactory performance unless the employer has-
(a) given the employee appropriate evaluation, instruction, training, guidance or counselling; and
(b) after a reasonable period of time for improvement, the employee continues to perform unsatisfactorily.
(3) The procedure leading to dismissal should include an investigation to establish the reasons for the unsatisfactory performance and the employer should consider other ways, short of dismissal, to remedy the matter.
(4) In the process, the employee should have the right to be heard and to be assisted by a trade union representative or a fellow employee.”

These are very clear requirements. Thus, at the end of the probation period, if the employee has not performed in a satisfactory manner, the employer cannot simply dismiss him.

The employer must be able to show that the above procedure of evaluation, counselling, guidance and training has taken place, that the employee has been given a reasonable opportunity (with the assistance of a fellow employee or representative (if required) to state his case and to state what he thinks is the cause of the problem, and to state and implement (within reason) what measures he suggests are required to rectify the problem.

The code gives the following guidelines regarding dismissal:

“Any person determining whether a dismissal for poor work performance is unfair should consider-
(a) whether or not the employee failed to meet a performance standard; and
(b) if the employee did not meet a required performance standard whether or not-
(i) the employee was aware, or could reasonably be expected to have been aware, of the required performance standard;
(ii) the employee was given a fair opportunity to meet the required performance standard; and
(iii) dismissal was an appropriate sanction for not meeting the required performance standard.”

Thus, the employer should keep detailed written records and minutes of the various meetings with the employee, detailed records of what was decided upon between the parties to rectify the matter, what period of improvement was decided upon by agreement between the parties, and what the result was of the implementation of the agreed rectification measures.

Should the employee refer a dispute of unfair dismissal to the CCMA, the employer would be required to show, by documentary proof, that he has complied with all the above requirements stipulated in The Code of Good Practice Dismissal.

Despite the above employers frequently misuse the probationary status of the employee to get rid of the employee because:
the employee has committed misconduct
the employer wants to make space for a brother, friend or cousin of the owner
the employee ‘does not fit in’
a manager ‘does not like the employee’s face’
In fact the labour law meaning of ‘probation’ is ‘testing the employee’s work performance’. That is, the only legitimate purpose of a probationary period is for the employer to assess the suitability of the employee in terms of his/her work performance.

...


Key Points

- Newly hired employees may be placed on probation to determine their suitability.
- The probation period may be extended but employers must be careful in this regard since the employee may refer this to the CCMA as an unfair labour practice. The employer will have to be able to justify its decision.
- Employees on probation are bound to the same rules and disciplinary procedures as permanent employees.
- Employees on probation may not be dismissed at the end of the probation period for poor performance, unless the employee was counselled during the probation period and an opportunity was given to the employee to defend himself against the allegations of poor performance before a dismissal is decided upon. In other words there must an incapacity enquiry before dismissing the employee for poor performance.
 
Verbally in a meeting this morning.

Busy trying to get more info. Obviously they're fairly distraught because they've been blindsided with this.

I can only imagine how distraught your friend would be. The employer is making a very big mistake. His staff can now hold him hostage, and he is going to get hit with a CCMA case. Plus, he looks weak as he is going back on a decision he made. Poor leadership and management imo. It could also be a blessing in disguise, as the person who hired your friend has no idea what he is doing.

This is going to turn into a he said, she said fight. The employer however will need to prove that due processes was followed, and from the sounds of it, there was none. Your friend should make notes with dates and times now to keep everything fresh. I would also mention to your friend that he/she should approach the company advising that it is an unfair dismissal, and request that they pay out a fair notice pay. If they refuse, I would go to the CCMA.
 
if I recall, if they on probation, CCMA will laugh at them,

normal rules dont apply during probation...

Of course they do. Probation periods are all nonsense. If you read the BCEA, the only difference is notice periods. But the termination still has to be done according to the legislated process, and done fairly.
 
I definitely think it is unfair. Whether the employer is allowed to do this - I dont know. The terms of his employment and probation also needs to considered.

The above being said, I am not sure whether I would want to work for an employer who caters to the tantrums of staff members. Surely there must have been a good reason why this person was hired and not someone else within the company?
 
if I recall, if they on probation, CCMA will laugh at them,

normal rules dont apply during probation...

Close friend recently dismissed someone on probation and got taken to the CCMA and they ruled in favour of the employee.
 
The above being said, I am not sure whether I would want to work for an employer who caters to the tantrums of staff members. Surely there must have been a good reason why this person was hired and not someone else within the company?
This is my standpoint as well. No way in hell I'd work for a company who treats me like that.

I would tell the employer that, if he's willing to pay me for a few months that I'm willing to resign on amicable terms. In fact, I'll tell him to pay me fore 6 months so I have enough time to find another job.
 
Thank you for your feedback so far guys. Thought it seemed odd, now I'm just pissed.

Have started gathering the facts so that we can fight this, even if it means a job change (which I think it will).

I shall post additional questions/updates as we go. If you have anything further to add, please do so. Could use all the support you can give :)
 
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