Unionize???

Mental-Tree said:
And just imagine how the world would suffer without us. Pandemonium would ensure as people panicked around the globe. Unable to figure out why their PC's wont switch on or why they can't access the internet. One by one, every data center across the globe would collapse, data loss would be irreversible. Email and web service would be effected globally, companies will no longer know how to communicate with their clients, employees will no longer know how to get their work done able to work. We are like bees, you may never seen us but we are always hard at work and the world simply cannot survive without us:twisted:
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I suggest you Google 'Outsourcing' and 'Cloud Solutions'.

Yes not only the world, but even your employer can happily survive without you ...
 
ghoti said:
I would join an IT union if anyone starts one.
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same with me, still cant understand why its never been done before, there certainly are enough of us to get the ball rolling

miners are highly skilled and many of them work in offces and drink coffee all day,
truck drivers,pilots,doctors,street cleaners all have unions that protect them, why does IT not have one single union that understands our highly specialized work one little bit.
and many of those professions are very highly skilled and technical.

I think its a deliberate conspiracy why the teamsters dont exist in SA

or its simply that not "enough" of the right people are interested in helping us.
 
bekdik said:
I suggest you Google 'Outsourcing' and 'Cloud Solutions'.

Yes not only the world, but even your employer can happily survive without you ...
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The irony is that some here will be working for South African companies that are in fact doing outsourced work for foreign companies.
 
shogun said:
How so... will that not in fact push them further into that practice?
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Well that would be up to the union to figure out.

Unions are not all about striking.
I think with enough support they would be able to take on the big guys and even engage government.
 
maybe we should have a poll?
I really don't understand why its never been done before,or maybe its been tried and fell apart after a while......

and why people dont run with the idea? approach cosatu/sactawu/solidarity any other unions and see if they got a division specializing in IT?
 
ghoti said:
Its funny, I just not sure I wanna have the name associated with solidarity. Not stealing their thunder or anything. I just know they are very close to Afriforum and are often politically motivated. However, for an acronym that cool, I might change my mind :D
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I have to agree there. I've often been tempted to join Solidarity, but I want a union that can back me, not their political agendas.
 
Technically-Orientated Specialist and Computer Related Employee Workers Union

To Screw U


Mmmm - I'm losing my mind here.
 
Biggest stumbling block will be whether the union uses Windows or Linux :/
 
eg2505 said:
same with me, still cant understand why its never been done before, there certainly are enough of us to get the ball rolling

miners are highly skilled and many of them work in offces and drink coffee all day,
truck drivers,pilots,doctors,street cleaners all have unions that protect them, why does IT not have one single union that understands our highly specialized work one little bit.
and many of those professions are very highly skilled and technical.

I think its a deliberate conspiracy why the teamsters dont exist in SA

or its simply that not "enough" of the right people are interested in helping us.
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It might be because IT is still very white, and white people in this country are incredibly apathetic. I think Apartheid taught them how not to fight the system too well.
 
The_Librarian said:
This.

And I agree.

They don't appreciate their current IT people until it is too late, and think they can pay them a little less than what they really are worth.
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At least there are a few people here who see the bigger picture.

bekdik said:
I suggest you Google 'Outsourcing' and 'Cloud Solutions'.

Yes not only the world, but even your employer can happily survive without you ...
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Physical address please, you are our second winner of... an pinch of salt!!! And I suggest you Google, "sarcasm", "sense of humor", and "Friends, what life would be like if I had any". Blerrie cave troll.

Compton_effect said:
Only until there is a fault that is not in the manual. Those kids can only fake it that far.
That same mindset is why outfits like Gijima AST has retrenched senior IT staff, only to hire them back at contractor fee's a few months later.

Heck - I had the same conversation with a manager in my exit interview - he said the same thing. 6 months later his boss actually phoned me to ask if I could come assist my replacements. They were having issues. My old manager avoided me like the plague for the 2 weeks I was there.
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Have had a similar experience. We're all very dispensable until something fails and its not just a power cable that's unplugged.
 
Galactica said:
Communications Workers Union (CWU).
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"The Communication Workers' Union of South Africa is the most progressive, militant and growing union in the communication industry" - Self proclaimed militants, this is an example of what a workers union should not be.
 
Is all this unionization about fighting for those who are already employed in IT @ the expense of those who are still out?
 
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