OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Problem is, if Turkey are allowed into the EU then the military won't be allowed to do that anymore. It's against EU law.
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Unrest in Turkey
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Problem is, if Turkey are allowed into the EU then the military won't be allowed to do that anymore. It's against EU law.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Turkish riot police fired tear gas at hundreds of protesters in Ankara Monday on the fourth day of angry demonstrations against the Islamist-rooted government of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Police moved to disperse some 1,000 mostly young protestors who gathered on the downtown Kizilay square, an AFP photographer said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /sdv
Date : 03 Jun 2013 14:08
Police moved to disperse some 1,000 mostly young protestors who gathered on the downtown Kizilay square, an AFP photographer said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /sdv
Date : 03 Jun 2013 14:08
Never thought about that.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
A young demonstrator was killed in Istanbul by a car that rammed into a crowd during a wave of protests against Turkey's government, a medics' union said on Monday.
The car killed Mehmet Ayvalitas, a member of a left-wing association, when it ploughed into demonstrators occupying a highway on Sunday, the third day of clashes between protestors and police, the Union of Turkish Doctors said in a statement.
Source : Sapa-AFP /sdv
Date : 03 Jun 2013 15:37
The car killed Mehmet Ayvalitas, a member of a left-wing association, when it ploughed into demonstrators occupying a highway on Sunday, the third day of clashes between protestors and police, the Union of Turkish Doctors said in a statement.
Source : Sapa-AFP /sdv
Date : 03 Jun 2013 15:37
killadoob
Honorary Master
Well it shows you muslims don't want that religeous BS(my opinion each their own) in government.
No it shows they do because the majority voted into power the AKP, the minority are now revolting so don't come with that BS trying to make Islamic idiots look good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_presidential_election,_2007
No different to Egypt after the uprising where they voted the Muslim Brotherhood into power. If you believe for a second that Muslims wan't a secular state then you are sorely mistaken. If there was a Muslim party in SA today most of the Muslims would vote for it and if they were in the majority this would be an Islamic state. In Islam Allah comes first, there is no loyalty to a government as such unless that government is entrenched in Islamic ideology & laws.
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killadoob
Honorary Master
So the majority of black folk voted in the anc, does that mean every black person wants the anc in power? Majority voted in mugabe does that mean they want him there? You want land slide victories in a democratic country, then the population can't get upset. 60-70% is about right for peace and 99% to be 100% certain
Secondly i hope they vote in an islamic party in SA, they are a bit more westernized and would not enforce sharia law but they would nail criminals very harshly. Sharia justice would be great. You seem to think all muslims want sharia law. Take the US you can really only vote for two candidates, with such a tight race can you honestly say americans want obama, a portion yes and the same applies to the islamic world.
Well egypians were stupid but muburak was a terrible president. He was very pro west and pro israel which means they came before the people. Fair enough no issue with that but as usual with Islamic countries they get democracy and get sharia law which makes muburak seem like a legend. For some reason the islamic people and western powers think democracy and regime change means peace and stability, it actually means civil war, unrest and more radical people come to power. Governments should be banned globally to force any religion as justice. Go western, let the people just decide for themselves.
It's sad no doubt but i doubt an islamic party would force sharia law on us, not in this country. Rainbow nation. look it can never happen but it's worth debating
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There's been an Islamic party in our elections since 94
Never knew that, thank god they're a minority. Does not negate the rest of my post though, if they were a majority we would have an islamic state.
Yes the majority want the ANC in power, almost 2/3 of the population.
Yes, one would assume so seeing they voted for him, not?
No, it's based on barbaric religious laws which they will willy nilly extend to all infidels just for being infidels. You can take your sharia & religion & god and shove it where the sun don't shine
First you say governments should be banned forcing religion and then you say people should decide for themselves? The people have decided!
It's sad no doubt but i doubt an islamic party would force sharia law on us, not in this country. Rainbow nation. look it can never happen but it's worth debating
Where ever islam gets a foothold that is what they do, they enforce islamic law. Just look at what's happened to the middle east in the past and now happening with islams spread south into africa. I don't buy this apologistic propaganda they spread to pacify the non-believers.
killadoob
Honorary Master
You don't even know a thing about them but you are thanking god already?
Why are you thanking god did he waveshis wand and make them the minority, that sounds like he is actually making it happen. like a football player saying god was on his side
Seems a bit odd. I really wish GOD did what i asked him, everyone would have full bellies but he was too busy watching football , then alonso request him to give his tires more performance so he was busy.Seriously though you would rather have the anc in power over an islamic party that you know nothing about? Surely if you have to choose it might be in your interest to know something about them. I will do the research because i know nothing about them.
Dude i don't want to shove a bible in my ass. no girth, give me a chod bible and we talking. checking out this islamic party.
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figure of speech...
killadoob
Honorary Master
You don't even know a thing about them but you are thanking god already?
Why are you thanking god did he wave his wand and make them the minority, that sounds like he is actually making it happen. like a football player saying god was on our side
Seems a bit odd. I really wish GOD did what i asked him, everyone would have full bellies but he was too busy watching football , each to their own though perhaps it is true i am not here to judge who believes what.Seriously though you would rather have the anc in power over an islamic party that you know nothing about? Surely if you have to choose it might be in your interest to know something about them. I will do the research because i know nothing about them.
Is this the one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_Muslim_Party
LOL sold out, ponder even though he had no info called it
. Although it makes no mention of sharia laws but there is little information on wiki, checking google still.http://www.aljama.co.za/ wow you have to pay to join them granted it's not that much, i am fairly certain that tactic would pretty much fail for the anc considering they already rip off the majority of this country. Protest with your pens people!!!!! x marks the government making you burn tires, strike and losing school books. Casatu i wonder if they could pull the anc vote by forming a party, the union party(we care for our people) who would lead them though? Malema maybe
, split the anc but then civil unrest might become a thing. http://www.aljama.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nationalElections2014Poster.png
ponder 2 all my research yielded nothing other than ponder either knew it already or i really need to watch the elections, i have tunnel vision, walk into booth tick DA walk out haha. Guess that is how the majority roll as well except i am allowed to moan because i never voted for the anc
. Although if the majority of SA voted them in it means we all did like ponder says so we must go along with it. I wonder what would happen with a 51 to 49% victory for the DA or a really tight election the anc lost. Civil war? uprisings? Or acceptance.
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OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
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So the majority of black folk voted in the anc, does that mean every black person wants the anc in power? Majority voted in mugabe does that mean they want him there? You want land slide victories in a democratic country, then the population can't get upset. 60-70% is about right for peace and 99% to be 100% certain
Secondly i hope they vote in an islamic party in SA, they are a bit more westernized and would not enforce sharia law but they would nail criminals very harshly. Sharia justice would be great. You seem to think all muslims want sharia law. Take the US you can really only vote for two candidates, with such a tight race can you honestly say americans want obama, a portion yes and the same applies to the islamic world.
Well egypians were stupid but muburak was a terrible president. He was very pro west and pro israel which means they came before the people. Fair enough no issue with that but as usual with Islamic countries they get democracy and get sharia law which makes muburak seem like a legend. For some reason the islamic people and western powers think democracy and regime change means peace and stability, it actually means civil war, unrest and more radical people come to power. Governments should be banned globally to force any religion as justice. Go western, let the people just decide for themselves.
It's sad no doubt but i doubt an islamic party would force sharia law on us, not in this country. Rainbow nation. look it can never happen but it's worth debating
As for the unbolded parts, I just shake my head. Have you had a second or third opinion, on those tablets you are taking?
As for the 1st bolded part, congratulations, in your stumbling along the paths of life, you have, in that haze, found the correct conclusion.
As for the second bolded part, never say never. http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...s-to-Islam?p=10263832&viewfull=1#post10263832
and...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...s-to-Islam?p=10272058&viewfull=1#post10272058
and...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...-with-Islamist-Radicalization-in-South-Africa
killadoob
Honorary Master
The second part dude is entirely fictional, it cannot happen so make up a story.
killadoob
Honorary Master
I know dude, sorry i should have put the tongue
If it's a close run thing the people never decided half of them did, would you say when the anc wins that the people vote for the anc to force their zulu culture and religion on everyone? Please note this is not literal and it is just a poor example i am sure but i hope you get the point.
In egypt for instance it was so tight, how can you say the people wanted what they have, tiny margins gave some people what they wanted and others got what they feared.
So the only thing the winner should do is ensure everyone is treated proper and not forced to suffer when they never voted for suffering, unless you can take the names of the people who voted for each party and apply it them hahah, then the people who didn't want shariah law can be all chilled knowing they are fine. How can you say the people of egypt wanted shariah law, as if they all voted for it. Sadly it just snuck(ponder dude snuck hmmm looks right but shows it isn't, go easy on me plz, i am doing my best to reform my posts and ensure they are as error free as possible.) in and now half the population face something very bad while the other half bask in the glory of their GOD(prophet i guess is the right word or Mohammed, dunno) i can't keep track if it's allah, ******* don't want incite violence even though so many have that name
Perhaps stoning rape victim depending on the mood or maybe lashes and what ever sick things they do there to people who are victims, now are you going to tell me all the people of egypt wanted what they got? all of us got what we wanted then i guess, next year we will again get our beloved anc back into power with a new leader because south africans wanted it. See that is not true and that is why the anc don't enforce religion on us like the old government because how do they go tell the different tribes they must all convert to zuluism(you can nail me for that one) lol i know that is badly wrong then convert to catholics or christians can't recall which one it is, i think catholic and we will serve justice the zulu way(no idea how that works but i am sure it isn't pleasant or extremely well run but i have no idea. Can you say we wanted that? South africans voted him in and wanted that so quit moaning and just do it and accept it because we voted in the anc again. Instead they sit back and allow a proper process that benefits all kinds of people, ok the powerful get away most of the time but money buys a ticket to hospital and then you recover in a few days and fly to europe, ibiza would be my choice or become a minister of something. You may even be able to get tenders while out on medical parole
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killadoob
Honorary Master
Guys please tell me if my posts are getting better or not, i promised someone i would do my utmost to up my poor english because it does look trollish and i am not a troll. grant i know you will disagree. I just mean the way i present it, my opinion will generally either be okish/mind blowing mostly though or stupid more than likely number 1 to most people, that i don't mind.
I think the stupid tag is ingrained but i can at least try pull back my error ridden posts which may change the way people perceive me, cause it's tiring saying i am no troll. Sorry put in a new post because it seemed a bit walltextish(hot girl standing by a wall knowing people are admiring)hmmm naaa i'll put that in the fail bin doubt men at work would go for it neil(characher on the show. might like it though, adding ish to things is just lame right? Perhaps by posting with more care i won't be looked at as stupid, well i will but some might see the post and say hey he makes a good now that i can read it without wanting to break my monitor.
or stupid more than likely number 1 to most people, that i don't mind. I think the stupid tag is ingrained but i can at least try pull back my error ridden posts which may change the way people perceive me, cause it's tiring saying i am no troll. Sorry put in a new post because it seemed a bit walltextish(hot girl standing by a wall knowing people are admiring)hmmm naaa i'll put that in the fail bin doubt men at work would go for it neil(characher on the show. might like it though, adding ish to things is just lame right? Perhaps by posting with more care i won't be looked at as stupid, well i will but some might see the post and say hey he makes a good now that i can read it without wanting to break my monitor
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Lightscribe
Banned
Erm, how's this story...
So the majority of black folk voted in the anc, does that mean every black person wants the anc in power? Majority voted in mugabe does that mean they want him there? You want land slide victories in a democratic country, then the population can't get upset. 60-70% is about right for peace and 99% to be 100% certain
Secondly i hope they vote in an islamic party in SA, they are a bit more westernized and would not enforce sharia law but they would nail criminals very harshly. Sharia justice would be great. You seem to think all muslims want sharia law. Take the US you can really only vote for two candidates, with such a tight race can you honestly say americans want obama, a portion yes and the same applies to the islamic world.
Well egypians were stupid but muburak was a terrible president. He was very pro west and pro israel which means they came before the people. Fair enough no issue with that but as usual with Islamic countries they get democracy and get sharia law which makes muburak seem like a legend. For some reason the islamic people and western powers think democracy and regime change means peace and stability, it actually means civil war, unrest and more radical people come to power. Governments should be banned globally to force any religion as justice. Go western, let the people just decide for themselves.
It's sad no doubt but i doubt an islamic party would force sharia law on us, not in this country. Rainbow nation. look it can never happen but it's worth debating
Ok, time for you to get off the tablets.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Dude fictional, you are free to use your imagination, if you choose to not part take in an impossible situation and have a bit of fun then perhaps remove whatever is in your arse, looks like a broom, hold on lemme grab the end, if you get splinters don't blame me i never stuck it up your ass hold still dammit, 1 2 3 ok hopefully we got it all and splinters are minimal. (light it is a joke, plz don't get all agro) you seem super serial just trying to lift the mood but it masy darken it but i am positive so i see lighten.
shariah law and criminals common you have to see how awesome it would be o fk you know light i see where i went wrong, a rapist is a criminal but the victim is stoned/lashed or hung, possible all three, ok i am changing my imagination here. How about we get a white anc leader who has another president but he is black an afrikaaner(city), indian and only one more a muslim(damn this is a tough one, leave out the muslim, too many different beliefs, we can perhaps have them as one so sunni,shia(no idea who else have to be unanimous and send a representative to the table, soo one muslim whether they can agree i dunno but i have faith in our rainbow nation) as one and they must agree before they input their feelings. i think Afrikaners will have to sit out. No offense but i doubt the majority will take kindly to it. if i have left anyone else please i didn't do it on purpose my panel was decided by an outside force, the voice in my head, it says the panel is full.
Now decisions and budgets basically presidential stuff would need to have approval stamp, that would mean everyone agrees o yes the presidents must be from the new generation, no one over 30-35. So we can get rid of this apartheid hang up we have at the moment. Time move forward so we are going to focus on forwardness.
Now imagine a government with 5 -7 presidents representing all the various communities, granted we would need 20-40 presidents lol but this is my imagination of the perfect government so let's call it 7. I wonder how it would work out. Why do countries need one guy running the show. Corruption would drop, releasing people on medical parole would not be as easy and unity would be off the scale.
Light this post is entirely my imagination of what could work in this country. fair tale stuff nothing serious.
hold still dammit, 1 2 3 ok hopefully we got it all and splinters are minimal. (light it is a joke, plz don't get all agro) you seem super serial just trying to lift the mood but it masy darken it but i am positive so i see lighten.shariah law and criminals common you have to see how awesome it would be o fk you know light i see where i went wrong, a rapist is a criminal but the victim is stoned/lashed or hung, possible all three, ok i am changing my imagination here. How about we get a white anc leader who has another president but he is black an afrikaaner(city), indian and only one more a muslim(damn this is a tough one, leave out the muslim, too many different beliefs, we can perhaps have them as one so sunni,shia(no idea who else have to be unanimous and send a representative to the table, soo one muslim whether they can agree i dunno but i have faith in our rainbow nation) as one and they must agree before they input their feelings. i think Afrikaners will have to sit out. No offense but i doubt the majority will take kindly to it. if i have left anyone else please i didn't do it on purpose my panel was decided by an outside force, the voice in my head, it says the panel is full.
Now decisions and budgets basically presidential stuff would need to have approval stamp, that would mean everyone agrees o yes the presidents must be from the new generation, no one over 30-35. So we can get rid of this apartheid hang up we have at the moment. Time move forward so we are going to focus on forwardness.
Now imagine a government with 5 -7 presidents representing all the various communities, granted we would need 20-40 presidents lol but this is my imagination of the perfect government so let's call it 7. I wonder how it would work out. Why do countries need one guy running the show. Corruption would drop, releasing people on medical parole would not be as easy and unity would be off the scale.
Light this post is entirely my imagination of what could work in this country. fair tale stuff nothing serious.
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