Upgrading PC - recommendations please.

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Notice that the K is missing, if you want to OC then you must give that one a skip
 
Notice that the K is missing, if you want to OC then you must give that one a skip

The non K ones will OC to 3.8GHz for 4 cores or 4.1GHz for 1 core. The K models OC to the moon with a aftermarket cooler.
 
Well, you should still be able to reach almost 4GHz with the non-K version of the i5 2400?
 
Well, you should still be able to reach almost 4GHz with the non-K version of the i5 2400?

3.8GHz 4 cores, 3.9GHz 3 cores, 4GHz 2 cores, 4.1GHz 1 core all with stock cooler.
 
One, you'll never get one core clocked that high on turbo since most of us run programs that automatically shift around the workload, nevermind the OS which will also distribute it.
Two, turbo != OC. OC is when you raise the base frequency of the CPU, which is not possible without a K CPU and a P67 mobo

But then perhaps turbo is actually a better way to get higher frequencies?....
 
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There are some serious issues with these 1st generation 1155 cpu's that are putting me off the more I read about them. Cutting out the possibility of overclocking on all but 2 high-priced models really goes against the budget-OC ethic they put in place with C2D and continued with i7 and i5, where you could take an e2160 and squeeze 4ghz out of it with a bit of effort. Also Quick Sync demolishes CUDA and Stream as a transcoder, but it won't work if you have a discrete GPU. 1075T still looks like good value to me.
 
There are some serious issues with these 1st generation 1155 cpu's that are putting me off the more I read about them. Cutting out the possibility of overclocking on all but 2 high-priced models really goes against the budget-OC ethic they put in place with C2D and continued with i7 and i5, where you could take an e2160 and squeeze 4ghz out of it with a bit of effort. Also Quick Sync demolishes CUDA and Stream as a transcoder, but it won't work if you have a discrete GPU. 1075T still looks like good value to me.

OK then maybe I shouldn't go for the Sandy Bridge just yet.
But I still am unsure about the AMD you people suggest since Intel's Core CPU were so dominant when they came out. Have AMD Phenom chips improved so much?
 
Damn! If I can get it at that price I'll take it.

But I'm not keen on buying computer components from a website. I'll have to contact my local retailer.

Prophecy is a reputable place and I would bet my grandmothers kidneys on them.
 
There are some serious issues with these 1st generation 1155 cpu's that are putting me off the more I read about them. Cutting out the possibility of overclocking on all but 2 high-priced models really goes against the budget-OC ethic they put in place with C2D and continued with i7 and i5, where you could take an e2160 and squeeze 4ghz out of it with a bit of effort. Also Quick Sync demolishes CUDA and Stream as a transcoder, but it won't work if you have a discrete GPU. 1075T still looks like good value to me.

The performance is still stellar and the OC is not bad at all. The K models are targeted at a different market segment but come at a premium.

I would not hesitate to buy a non K model right now as that is purely aimed at the OC crowd. Hell just look at the stock performance you get off a i5-2400 and it works out cheaper than the AMD solutions presented in this thread.

Sanity does not seem to prevail on internet forums.
 
The performance is still stellar and the OC is not bad at all. The K models are targeted at a different market segment but come at a premium.

I would not hesitate to buy a non K model right now as that is purely aimed at the OC crowd. Hell just look at the stock performance you get off a i5-2400 and it works out cheaper than the AMD solutions presented in this thread.

Sanity does not seem to prevail on internet forums.
The chip each and every review recommends is the 2500k. I'm not sure why Prophecy only have the 2400 - listed at over the forecast UK price for the 2500K as well! Prepare to get fleeced Afro style.
 
The chip each and every review recommends is the 2500k.

Obviously from a geek standpoint I would agree because you can OC the mofo to 5.7GHz.

But is it worth the price and are you that big a geek? From a financial point of view the normal 2400 or 2500 is already a great choice. So do you buy the best out there or do you let common sense dictate that the cheaper option is still better than the other alternatives?

Hell, all of us would rather driver a Ferrari 360 or Lamborgini Murchialago than a BMW M3 but that does not make the BMW M3 a bad buy.

Btw. I hate BMW :D
 
It isn't the "best" chip. Like the i5 760, it's the best value for money. This is the chip that Prophecy should be touting.
 
I can buy directly from Rectron in Cape Town through a friend so I'm somewhat limited. Otherwise I would have to go to my local retailer and pay more.

I also have a limited budget. I'm willing to spend:

  • [*]± R1800 on a CPU
    [*]± R R1200 on a motherboard
    [*]Not over R2000 for graphics card.

It isn't the "best" chip. Like the i5 760, it's the best value for money. This is the chip that Prophecy should be touting.

Let's break this down to basics and rands & cents. Look at the OP's budget for starters, quoted above.

Now tell him that the 2500K is going to fit into his budget. It's a nice to have I agree.

Secondly tell him with a straight face that the i5-2400 is inferior to the AMD suggestions thus far.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/1
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/1/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...i5-2500k-core-i7-2600k-processors-review.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...el-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested

If he had money to blow I would advise him otherwise but when working within the confines of his budget the options are limited and we have to pick the best within those limits.
 
Secondly tell him with a straight face that the i5-2400 is inferior to the AMD suggestions thus far.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/1
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/1/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...i5-2500k-core-i7-2600k-processors-review.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...el-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested

If he had money to blow I would advise him otherwise but when working within the confines of his budget the options are limited and we have to pick the best within those limits.

I'm a bit thick so I (at 24:00 at night) am not following you argument's logical progression tht well (totally my fault). Please say again what would you buy if it was your money.
 
PCInt has the 1055 for 1800
Yeah. PcInt has reasonable prices in some components. I usually forget about them since they don't have too many products to select from.
The 1090T is the cheapest I have seen anywhere at R 2,164.
 
Secondly tell him with a straight face that the i5-2400 is inferior to the AMD suggestions thus far.

With the prices at prophecy for the mobo and cpu, Ive been recommending it to just about everyone I know whos been looking for a cheap upgrade. My word its awesome!.....thought some are being picky about the motherboard, its a wonderful upgrade!
 
I'm a bit thick so I (at 24:00 at night) am not following you argument's logical progression tht well (totally my fault). Please say again what would you buy if it was your money.

Intel I5-2400 3.1GHz LGA1155 6MB Cache Turbo CPU @ R1723.09 (inc VAT)


With the prices at prophecy for the mobo and cpu, Ive been recommending it to just about everyone I know whos been looking for a cheap upgrade. My word its awesome!.....thought some are being picky about the motherboard, its a wonderful upgrade!
 
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