US Administration deals with strategy on Egypt

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Tun@ said:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-02-13-obama-administration-strategy_N.htm

Why don't you big ass yanks just mind your own business...f..n globe police
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What you guys should do is look up SUEZ in 26 July 1956 ( East of Eden )

SUEZ CRISIS

Jewish Virtual Library

This is only a SMALL part of the story ( I am NOT going to do ALL your homework )

Look up the DULLES family -- very interesting -- for insight into how the the great US of A land of the free and the brave shafts the rest of the World

Always has done -- always will do


Seeing as I am feeling generous today

An affair to remember

Goes into a bit more detail -- VERY significant TODAY -- ESPECIALLY for ISRAEL
 
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so now you're quoting a juice source MW I thought you weren't a fan of the juice.....
 
ironic you blame the yanks for interfering and when they don't like with the Suez crises you still spin it to ultimately blame them. Damned if they do, damned if they don't
 
Bye Bye American Pie ( in the sky )

Alan said:
ironic you blame the yanks for interfering and when they don't like with the Suez crises you still spin it to ultimately blame them.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't
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Please -- * I * never blamed anyone.

America only cares about ONE thing -- WHAT IS GOOD FOR AMERICA ('s Rulers ! )
 
MidnightWizard said:
Please -- * I * never blamed anyone.

America only cares about ONE thing -- WHAT IS GOOD FOR AMERICA ('s Rulers ! )
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Funny how they are the biggest donor nation to the UN then, hey?

All those damn UNESCO, UNICEF, UNHCR people wasting "the world's money" :D
 
"AID"

Garyvdh said:
Funny how they are the biggest donor nation to the UN then, hey?
All those damn UNESCO, UNICEF, UNHCR people wasting "the world's money" :D
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Please do not get me started on the "AID" fiasco PONZI scheme.

NO -- that is the mom & pop US CIVILIAN TAXPAYER

What is the US deficit running at at the moment ?
 
MidnightWizard said:
Please do not get me started on the "AID" fiasco PONZI scheme.

NO -- that is the mom & pop US CIVILIAN TAXPAYER

What is the US deficit running at at the moment ?
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Funny, the UN and other member states don't seem to have a problem with it? :confused:
 
Shrinkage

Garyvdh said:
Funny, the UN and other member states don't seem to have a problem with it? :confused:
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PROBLEM

WHO has a problem with being given money for jam.

Let us not talk about the biggest waster of money on the planet :(
 
The statesman can only wait and listen until he hears the footsteps of God resounding through events; then he must jump up and grasp the hem of His coat, that is all.” Thus Otto von Bismarck, the great Prussian statesman who united Germany and thereby reshaped Europe’s balance of power nearly a century and a half ago.

Last week, for the second time in his presidency, Barack Obama heard those footsteps, jumped up to grasp a historic opportunity … and missed it completely.
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In Bismarck’s case it was not so much God’s coattails he caught as the revolutionary wave of mid-19th-century German nationalism. And he did more than catch it; he managed to surf it in a direction of his own choosing. The wave Obama just missed—again—is the revolutionary wave of Middle Eastern democracy. It has surged through the region twice since he was elected: once in Iran in the summer of 2009, the second time right across North Africa, from Tunisia all the way down the Red Sea to Yemen. But the swell has been biggest in Egypt, the Middle East’s most populous country.

In each case, the president faced stark alternatives. He could try to catch the wave, Bismarck style, by lending his support to the youthful revolutionaries and trying to ride it in a direction advantageous to American interests. Or he could do nothing and let the forces of reaction prevail. In the case of Iran, he did nothing, and the thugs of the Islamic Republic ruthlessly crushed the demonstrations. This time around, in Egypt, it was worse. He did both—some days exhorting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to leave, other days drawing back and recommending an “orderly transition.”

The result has been a foreign-policy debacle. The president has alienated everybody: not only Mubarak’s cronies in the military, but also the youthful crowds in the streets of Cairo. Whoever ultimately wins, Obama loses. And the alienation doesn’t end there. America’s two closest friends in the region—Israel and Saudi Arabia—are both disgusted. The Saudis, who dread all manifestations of revolution, are appalled at Washington’s failure to resolutely prop up Mubarak. The Israelis, meanwhile, are dismayed by the administration’s apparent cluelessness.

Last week, while other commentators ran around Cairo’s Tahrir Square, hyperventilating about what they saw as an Arab 1989, I flew to Tel Aviv for the annual Herzliya security conference. The consensus among the assembled experts on the Middle East? A colossal failure of American foreign policy.

This failure was not the result of bad luck. It was the predictable consequence of the Obama administration’s lack of any kind of coherent grand strategy, a deficit about which more than a few veterans of U.S. foreign policy making have long worried. The president himself is not wholly to blame. Although cosmopolitan by both birth and upbringing, Obama was an unusually parochial politician prior to his election, judging by his scant public pronouncements on foreign-policy issues.
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What can you expect from somebody who thinks France is their closest ally :o
 
“Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country”
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Ron Paul
 
So who is happy with the demise of Mubarak?

What will follow?

Here comes another fundimentalist muslim state and loads of Egyptian Christian, Coptic and moderate Muslim refugees to be looked after.

Viva democracy! One man, one vote, once!
 
Best case scenario Egypt blossoms into a secular democratic society. I fear that is also the least likely.


Worst case scenario Egypt goes the way of Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood slowly takes over. In which case you'll end up with a fundamentalist state.


Or the status quo will remain with the military installing another Mubarak like strongman but with more leeway for more freedoms.
 
Alan said:
Best case scenario Egypt blossoms into a secular democratic society. I fear that is also the least likely.


Worst case scenario Egypt goes the way of Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood slowly takes over. In which case you'll end up with a fundamentalist state.


Or the status quo will remain with the military installing another Mubarak like strongman but with more leeway for more freedoms.
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Personally I HOPE for the last as the lesser of the two evils for the region as a whole - If Egypt goes "bad" israel will be surrounded and who knows what they will do!
 
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