US Cop shoots attacker

Soon the defund police crowd will show up .
People will draw conclusions between saint Floyd and this guy while pointing out different threat levels etc.
While ignoring how unpredictable drug abuse can make people.
 
konfab said:
Or he would have had a knee put on his neck and suffocated.


But when you are white and this happens, there are no international protests about it.
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So can we also burn down stuff peacefully, take back our stuff that was taken because some dude somewhere did farkedup (and while we're at it somma grab some ciggies, booze and a wide screen TV - just because). Somma go donner some dude like @STS because he sometimes says stupid thing I don't agree with ...

Nope, that's not how civilized society rolls. Hell, I might even share some of my booze with STS if he's out.
(I did say might - the jury's out)
 
Jabulani22 said:
Soon the defund police crowd will show up .
People will draw conclusions between saint Floyd and this guy while pointing out different threat levels etc.
While ignoring how unpredictable drug abuse can make people.
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And early to the scene like a towtruck driver as always I see :p
 
STS said:
Hey look, a criminal who hasn't got bullet holes in his back, has a real weapon on him and hasn't got an officer sitting on his throat, color me impressed
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Because of this one incident, don't you think all that slavery and barbarism is justified now ?
 
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Sollie said:
So can we also burn down stuff peacefully, take back our stuff that was taken because some dude somewhere did farkedup (and while we're at it somma grab some ciggies, booze and a wide screen TV - just because). Somma go donner some dude like @STS because he sometimes says stupid thing I don't agree with ...

Nope, that's not how civilized society rolls. Hell, I might even share some of my booze with STS if he's out.
(I did say might - the jury's out)
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I actually shared that exact same video in another thread to show that overly-aggressive police are the issue, not that race is important. It was one of those threads where everybody assumed I was defending Floyd coz I was criticising the manner in which the arrest was done.

In that video you can even hear the police laughing at the news that the guy is dead.

Edit: Floyd was shared on social media by strangers, the gentleman in the video above had his death kept secret for 3 years until the camera footage was released. If nobody had recorded George lying on the sidewalk saying he couldn't breathe, the whole issue wouldn't have seen the light of day. Just makes you think how many more deaths happen that aren't recorded.
 
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The_Ogre said:
I was wondering why (and how he knew) the cop called him by his name (actually his surname).

According to the family the cops knew him and knew he had some sort of mental issue.



abcnews.go.com

Wisconsin police kill knife-wielding man who family says suffered from mental illness

Kevin Ruffin's family says he suffers from mental illness, and police were aware.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

I still would have shot him. Let's face it, there wasn't much else the cop could have done.
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Yip the ol mental illness card to support the racist card.
So the implication here is that he the cops knew they'd get attacked by a psycho so drove there deliberately to shoot him?
 
Vorastra said:
We should make a police body cam thread.
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Good idea. I've seen lots of body cam shootings on youtube. The body cam footage of the Wendys shooting changed my mind about that incident, as it gives you a different perspective of what actually happened. The guy on the active self protection youtube channel does a really good breakdown of the shooting.
The George Floyed body cam footage hasn't changed my mind though.
 
Lucas Buck said:
The cops ****ed up
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Now that we've seen the bodycam footage, where is the so-called blatant racism? I don't see any racism. The cops handled the situation like unprofessional noobs. Floyd didn't have to die, but he was a drug fuelled lunatic, having a paranoid freak out and resisting arrest. He was more at fault for his own death than the cops.
 
Sensorei said:
Now that we've seen the bodycam footage, where is the so-called blatant racism? I don't see any racism. The cops handled the situation like unprofessional noobs. Floyd didn't have to die, but he was a drug fuelled lunatic, having a paranoid freak out and resisting arrest. He was more at fault for his own death than the cops.
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His hands were cuffed and he was not a threat. It was unecessary to keep pressure on his neck for that long.
I think that what would help if the US police had those bakkies that the SA police use. It's easier to put a suspect at the back of one of those that try to force him into a car.
 
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Vorastra said:
I disagree...to a certain point.
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The main issue that I have is, if you look how much time they spent on his neck, they could have tied his legs and have him writhe around to his heart's content.
The question now is whether they responsible for his death or was it due to training and procedure. If their manuals don't tell them to remove their knees from a suspects neck after a prescribed period of time, or to regularly check up on the suspect when in that position then it's the police force that should be sued. If they followed every rule then the police force should accept the blame, change the guidelines with regards to restraining suspects and not hang the officers out to dry.
 
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Lucas Buck said:
The main issue that I have is, if you look how much time they spent on his neck, they could have tied his legs and have him writhe around to his heart's content.
The question now is whether they responsible for his death or was it due to training and procedure. If their manuals don't tell them to remove their knees from a suspects neck after a prescribed period of time, or to regularly check up on the suspect when in that position then it's the police force that should be sued. If they followed every rule then the police force should accept the blame, change the guidelines with regards to restraining suspects and not hang the officers out to dry.
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That's also my issue. While the neck-knee thing was taught to them and was department practise, apparently, it doesn't mean he should've just sat there for so long on him, like you say.
 
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