US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%
  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%

  • Total voters
    374
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cerebus

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I was just about to post this.

He says "sure" at key points in the questions.

Looks like he learned a few lessons on how to deal with Trump’s bullying and lies since 2016. Good on him. Trump’s behaviour in the debate was absolutely disgusting.
 

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The FBI list them as a white supremacist hate group.

They were at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered. One of their members was an organiser.

They have a tactical defense arm called the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights. It's run by this guy.

They're banned from Facebook, Insta, YouTube and Twitter.

Fred Perry stopped making one of it's shirts 'cos Proud Boys were wearing them and they didn't want the association.

... But yeah, wbot, what could possibly be the problem with Proud Boys.

Interesting. With all the framing, omissions and double speak on some of the issues I already know about, I think this pic summarizes it:

The Racist White Supremacist who dared win a fight.
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Tokolotshe

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Ummm

Fake news old chap.

Kamala Harris did not use the word "rioting".


She said protests.

You know the thing that is protected under the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

Since the George Floyd incident, only 7% of the protests have devolved to rioting.

But go on about "waking up"
Yep, those fiery protests. We know how that works. It's not as if we or she had the experience of plenty hindsight, nê ...

Building one fake narrative on top of another, aka fake narrative stacking.
 

cerebus

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Yeah. I mean, Trump debating Chris Wallace is exactly what everyone wanted to see.

Nobody wanted to see Trump shouting over everything Biden said like a coked up belligerent ******* but that’s what we got
 

Emjay

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Nobody wanted to see Trump shouting over everything Biden said like a coked up belligerent ******* but that’s what we got

And we got a very partisan moderator who debated on behalf of Biden and even openly commiserated on his hatred of Trump with Biden.

What is your point?
 

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Yep, those fiery protests. We know how that works. It's not as if we or she had the experience of plenty hindsight, nê ...

Building one fake narrative on top of another, aka fake narrative stacking.
Yeah how people want to downplay the dangers of right wing terrorism when it constitutes 53% of terrorist attacks in the USA, versus claiming that the 7% of violent protests represents the characteristics of all protests.
 

cerebus

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And we got a very partisan moderator who debated on behalf of Biden and even openly commiserated on his hatred of Trump with Biden.

What is your point?

Partisan? No Emjay, Trump needs to be fact checked. He was out of control and practically every word that came out of his mouth was a lie. You can either let him debase the entire debate or you can push back on him. That’s what Wallace did, and it’s the job of a moderator and a good journalist, and I’m glad he grew some stones.
 

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Yeah how people want to downplay the dangers of right wing terrorism when it constitutes 53% of terrorist attacks in the USA, versus claiming that the 7% of violent protests represents the characteristics of all protests.
Source for the percentages?
 

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Partisan? No Emjay, Trump needs to be fact checked. He was out of control and practically every word that came out of his mouth was a lie. You can either let him debase the entire debate or you can push back on him. That’s what Wallace did, and it’s the job of a moderator and a good journalist, and I’m glad he grew some stones.

Can you tell us if Biden lied about anything?
 

rietrot

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Partisan? No Emjay, Trump needs to be fact checked. He was out of control and practically every word that came out of his mouth was a lie. You can either let him debase the entire debate or you can push back on him. That’s what Wallace did, and it’s the job of a moderator and a good journalist, and I’m glad he grew some stones.
Emjay did just post a rather good fact check Twitter thread.
 

Emjay

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Partisan? No Emjay, Trump needs to be fact checked. He was out of control and practically every word that came out of his mouth was a lie. You can either let him debase the entire debate or you can push back on him. That’s what Wallace did, and it’s the job of a moderator and a good journalist, and I’m glad he grew some stones.

Seems like someone does not understand the concept of a debate. You think a moderator should act as a journalist? Really? Are you even for real right now? They are supposed to ask questions and let the candidates answer in accordance with the rules of the debate. It is not his job to insert his own words into anything.

Anyway, even Jill Biden has had to step in to talk for Joe Biden. So it's not surprising that people are fine with others doing the heavy lifting for Joe Biden.
 

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Geez 30 pages o_O

Spose you guys are now arguing about whose turd smelt better at the great debate?
 

Emjay

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Yeah how people want to downplay the dangers of right wing terrorism when it constitutes 53% of terrorist attacks in the USA, versus claiming that the 7% of violent protests represents the characteristics of all protests.

Yet, handfuls of people have been killed recently and you have not peeped a word about it. The fact that you seem to really be focused on only one side of the extremism it just so blatant at this point, it's hard to take anything you say seriously.
 

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And no-one gives a damn that everyone including the moderator are a bunch of geriatrics who quite frankly should all have ****ed off ages ago and left much younger people to do their thing
 

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Seems like someone does not understand the concept of a debate. You think a moderator should act as a journalist? Really? Are you even for real right now? They are supposed to ask questions and let the candidates answer in accordance with the rules of the debate. It is not his job to insert his own words into anything.

Anyway, even Jill Biden has had to step in to talk for Joe Biden. So it's not surprising that people are fine with others doing the heavy lifting for Biden.

In a normal debate Trump would have been cut off and kicked out. He violated all the rules he agreed to.
 

Emjay

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In a normal debate Trump would have been cut off and kicked out. He violated all the rules he agreed to.

We know you are comfortable with the partisanship. That's why no one gives a **** about how you feel about Trump's behaviour.
 
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