US Election 2020

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lumeer said:
Wow, the Dow rose by over 1000 points on Wednesday. The markets are signaling their approval of Biden as the likely Democrat candidate.

It's also helped that on the coronavirus issue, Trump has, for a change, been acting like a proper leader over the last few days. I'm proud of him.
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It was actually that piece of paper that Obama signed 10 years ago.
 
greg0205 said:
@Temujin

Regarding yesterdays conversation...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1235409660104015873

"My hunch."?

"Personally I would say the number is way under one percent."?

Really?

Really?
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There are quite a few numbers floating around here.

So my hunch is that it’s hard to say.
Really

www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Case Fatality Rate (CFR), Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), and Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) latest estimates for the COVID-19 disease from the SARS-CoV-2 virus originating from Wuhan, China
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
 
Pegasus said:
There are quite a few numbers floating around here.

So my hunch is that it’s hard to say.
Really

www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Case Fatality Rate (CFR), Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), and Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) latest estimates for the COVID-19 disease from the SARS-CoV-2 virus originating from Wuhan, China
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
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No there aren't and it's massively irresponsible to deliberately try to downplay the severity of it just because you're afraid of how is going to affect you in the polls
 
cerebus said:
No there aren't and it's massively irresponsible to deliberately try to downplay the severity of it just because you're afraid of how is going to affect you in the polls
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You are a hateful and negative person so you’ll pick the worst possible numbers.
 
Techne said:
Bloody hell, with that logic it must mean the markets signalled their approval of Trump the past 2 years :laugh: .
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Why does Trump get to claim credit for good markets, but gets to blame bad markets on extrinsic factors, and I can't do the same with Biden?
 
lumeer said:
At 11 deaths so far among 159 cases in the US, their mortality rate for novel coronavirus may even be much higher than 3%.
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Yes, but got to point out that this may be due to their current level of massive under-testing.
 
Pegasus said:
Talking about the hateful left...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1235431852913184774
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If action is not taken against Schumer for personally threatening two Supreme Court Justices and attempting to intimate and sway their future decisions, and that of the whole bench, for the mere suggestion that they will here the case; then this would be unequivocal proof once and for all of the two-tiered system of justice in the US.

What Schumer did is beyond the pale! He deserves whatever political reprisal comes his way.
IF (that's a big IF) the majority of New Yorkers were smart, and actually love their country like many claim, they'd vote him out of the Senate, and the sooner the better.
 
Viper87 said:
If action is not taken against Schumer for personally threatening two Supreme Court Justices and attempting to intimate and sway their future decisions, and that of the whole bench, for the mere suggestion that they will here the case; then this would be unequivocal proof once and for all of the two-tiered system of justice in the US.

What Schumer did is beyond the pale! He deserves whatever political reprisal comes his way.
IF (that's a big IF) the majority of New Yorkers were smart, and actually love their country like many claim, they'd vote him out of the Senate, and the sooner the better.
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I'll just wait here on your call for action to be taken against Donnie for "attempting to intimate and sway" the "future decisions" of Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg then, shall I?

www.theguardian.com

Trump lashes out at liberal supreme court justices and demands recusals

President rages at Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg after Sotomayor criticized administration’s frequent appeals for supreme court to step in
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Even as the US justice system faces a crisis of credibility because of the Trump administration’s handling of federal cases, Donald Trump has taken the unusual step of attacking two supreme court justices on Twitter and in remarks to the press.

In a dissent last week, justice Sonia Sotomayor criticized the Trump administration’s frequent appeals to the supreme court to intervene in lower-court decisions, and the court’s willingness to side with such requests.

On Twitter, responding to a segment on Fox News’s The Ingraham Angle, Trump unleashed a tirade against Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who has criticized the president in the past.

“This is a terrible thing to say,” Trump tweeted. “Trying to ‘shame’ some into voting her way? She never criticized Justice Ginsberg when she called me a ‘faker’. Both should recuse themselves on all Trump, or Trump related, matters!

“While ‘elections have consequences’” – a reference to his two supreme court appointments since winning the White House, both reliable conservatives – “I only ask for fairness, especially when it comes to decisions made by the United States supreme court!”

At a press conference in India on Tuesday, Trump repeated his complaint.

“I just don’t know how they can not recuse themselves from anything having to do with Trump or Trump-related,” he said. “The right thing to do is that.

“What Justice Sotomayor said … was really highly inappropriate and everybody agrees to that. Virtually everybody. I’ve seen papers on it, people cannot believe that she said it.”

He said: “She’s trying to shame people with perhaps a different view into voting her way.”

The attacks on two of the four women ever to serve on the supreme court, including its first Latina, landed as the lens tightens on the president’s interference in the courts system.

This month, attorney general William Barr publicly criticized Trump’s tweeting on justice department matters and reportedly said he was considering quitting after Trump failed to heed his warning to stop.

At the same time, more than 2,600 former US justice department officials called on Barr to step down for “doing the president’s personal bidding” in imposing a recommendation of a reduced sentence for Roger Stone, a longtime friend of the president.

It would be exceptional for any supreme court justice to recuse themselves from all cases involving the White House.

Sotomayor’s dissent was written in the style justices use after losing a divided ruling and did not mention Trump or accuse the courts of a pro-Trump bias. It depicted accurately how the Trump administration has asked the supreme court to intervene in cases playing out in lower courts at a higher rate than George W Bush and Barack Obama combined.

“Claiming one emergency after another, the government has recently sought stays in an unprecedented number of cases, demanding immediate attention and consuming limited court resources in each,” Sotomayor wrote. “And with each successive application, of course, its cries of urgency ring increasingly hollow.”

Sotomayor was critical of the court allowing this to happen, and wrote that such interventions usually fall in the Trump administration’s favor.

The president’s call for Ginsburg to recuse appeared to stem from her criticism of him during the 2016 election. In July that year, Ginsburg said she could not “imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president” and called him a “faker”.

Ginsburg has said she regrets the comments, as “judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office”.

“In the future I will be more circumspect,” she said.

In November 2018, Trump’s relentless focus on the courts prompted supreme court chief justice John Roberts to intervene. After Trump said a federal judge was biased because of the president who appointed him, Roberts denied the assertion.

“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,” said the conservative appointed by George W Bush in 2005. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”

Trump ignored the rebuke.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1232155591537254400
 
Viper87 said:
If action is not taken against Schumer for personally threatening two Supreme Court Justices and attempting to intimate and sway their future decisions, and that of the whole bench, for the mere suggestion that they will here the case; then this would be unequivocal proof once and for all of the two-tiered system of justice in the US.

What Schumer did is beyond the pale! He deserves whatever political reprisal comes his way.
IF (that's a big IF) the majority of New Yorkers were smart, and actually love their country like many claim, they'd vote him out of the Senate, and the sooner the better.
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Yes he does. I believe the courts should always be independant, as it is enshrined in the Constitution.

On that note, Trump also deserves the same sanction you suggest, for his repeated attacks on the Supreme Court, and various Circuit court Judges, Appeal court Judges and the judiciary in general.

www.brennancenter.org

In His Own Words: The President’s Attacks on the Courts

Donald Trump has displayed a troubling pattern of attacking judges and the courts for rulings he disagrees with.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

www.nytimes.com

Prosecutors Quit Roger Stone Case After Justice Dept. Intervenes on Sentencing (Published 2020)

President Trump had complained that the recommendation of seven to nine years in prison for his former adviser and longtime friend was a “miscarriage of justice.”
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
buka001 said:
Yes he does. I believe the courts should always be independant, as it is enshrined in the Constitution.

On that note, Trump also deserves the same sanction you suggest, for his repeated attacks on the Supreme Court, and various Circuit court Judges, Appeal court Judges and the judiciary in general.

www.brennancenter.org

In His Own Words: The President’s Attacks on the Courts

Donald Trump has displayed a troubling pattern of attacking judges and the courts for rulings he disagrees with.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

www.nytimes.com

Prosecutors Quit Roger Stone Case After Justice Dept. Intervenes on Sentencing (Published 2020)

President Trump had complained that the recommendation of seven to nine years in prison for his former adviser and longtime friend was a “miscarriage of justice.”
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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What part has the threat that Trump made?
 
Apparently some in this country lack comprehension skills and the abilities to discern between context and tone.

One is calmly pointing out political biases bleeding through by some Justices (who are supposed to rule free of such prejudices) and shouldn't be judging particular cases if they are predisposed to a bias; while and the other is ranting and shouting like a lunatic on the streets that Justices will have unleashed fury and will pay the price and they won't know what hit them at just the mere thought that they may possibly threaten women's so-called "reproductive rights".

One is a criticism, the other is a threat.
One is lawful and the other is not.


If a citizen did what Schumer did, in that tone, they would be arrested without question.
If a lawyer did what Schumer did, they would be disbarred.
 
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buka001 said:
Kind of throws that narrative from all the Conservatives that the Dem's are socialists way out the window.

Loving the cognitive dissonance here.
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Obviously the Dems are divided into two groups at the moment. The socialist and the moderates.
 
rietrot said:
Obviously the Dems are divided into two groups at the moment. The socialist and the moderates.
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Yeah, these ones are some of the moderates

See the source image
 
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