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How Greenwich Republicans Learned to Love Trump

When Donald Trump ran for President, he was hardly a natural heir to the Greenwich Republican tradition. In the eighties, he bought a mansion on the town’s waterfront, but he did not often observe the prim Yankee ethic inscribed on the Greenwich coat of arms: fortitudine et frugalitate—courage and thrift. Locals were embarrassed by the house’s gilded décor, and, after he and his wife Ivana divorced, she sold it. When George H. W. Bush called for a “kinder, gentler nation,” Trump responded, “If this country gets any kinder or gentler, it’s literally going to cease to exist.” In early 2016, even before Trump was asserting his right to “locker-room talk,” he was denounced in Greenwich Time, the town’s daily newspaper, by Leora Levy, a prominent local fund-raiser. “He is vulgar, ill-mannered and disparages those whom he cannot intimidate,” she wrote. Levy—the latest winner of the Prescott Bush Award—was lending her support to Prescott’s grandson Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida.

But not everyone in Greenwich was excited about Jeb. Jim Campbell was the chairman of the Republican Town Committee. The Campbells, like the Bushes, had deep roots in town. Jim prepped at Exeter and graduated from Harvard and Harvard Law School, before working in Europe and returning home as a real-estate executive. On a fall evening, Campbell attended a reception for Jeb Bush at the Belle Haven Club, a private tennis-and-boating club overlooking Long Island Sound. Jeb was expansive and mild, which struck Campbell as precisely wrong for the political moment: “He gave a whole talk about a woman named Juanita in South Florida, and how ‘immigration is love,’ and I just looked at the people I came with and said, ‘Does he think he’s already the nominee? He’s running in a tough Republican primary, and just because we’re at the Belle Haven Club doesn’t mean we’re all voting for him.’ ”


At home one night, watching television, Campbell happened on a Trump rally in Iowa. “I’m not a hard-core conservative—I’m a Republican from Greenwich,” Campbell said. “But I listened, and he had that line that he would use: ‘Folks, we either have a country or we don’t.’ And I felt the chill—like Chris Matthews with the little Obama zing up the leg. I’m, like, ‘Oh, my God, this is a really good line.’ ” To Campbell, Trump was describing immigration in ways that resonated: “Could somebody finally say that we’re allowed to enforce the law at the border without being called a racist? I lived in Switzerland for ten years. Do you think I was allowed to go around without a passport?”

Campbell tapped out a text message to a friend: “Trump live - can’t turn the channel. Unbelievable. I don’t think any R can beat him.” Campbell watched the rally for forty-five minutes. “He was mesmerizing,” he said. Not long afterward, he saw a Republican debate in which Trump described the invasion of Iraq as a mistake. For Campbell, the acknowledgment came as a catharsis. “Of course it was a big, fat mistake,” he told himself. “He says everything I think.”
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With the economy in crisis, Mason suspects that Trump will succeed in turning any rebound into a political asset. “There are people in the town right now—I guarantee you—who are saying, ‘Wow, this happened to me in ’08. My 401(k) went from X down to Y,’ ” he said. “What is Donald Trump telling you? ‘We’re going to do everything we need to so it does not take ten years to get you back where it was.’ I haven’t heard Joe Biden say that.”

Eventually, we wound our way to the inevitable question: How do you make your peace with Trump? His behavior toward women and immigrants? His separation of children from parents at the border? The “shithole” countries? Mason listened calmly. “I have no control over that,” he said. “What I have control over is what I worry about—the health and safety of my family, financial security of my family.” I pressed him, but he didn’t budge. “I’ve been empowered to care about the financial administrative affairs of a municipality with sixty thousand people sleeping at night,” he said. “I care about them.”

As Americans have reckoned with the origins of our political moment—the Trump years, the fury on all sides, the fraying of a common purpose—we have tended to focus on the effects of despair among members of the working class who felt besieged by technology, globalization, immigration, and trade. But that ignores the effects of seclusion among members of the governing class, who helped disfigure our political character by demonizing moderation and enfeebling the basic functions of the state. We—or they, depending on where you stand—receded behind gracious walls.

On the ground where I grew up, some of America’s powerful people have championed a version of capitalism that liberates wealth from responsibility. They embraced a fable of self-reliance (except when the fable is untenable), a philosophy of business that leaches more wealth from the real economy than it creates, and a vision of politics that forgives cruelty as the price of profit. In the long battle between the self and service, we have, for the moment, settled firmly on the self. To borrow a phrase from a neighbor in disgrace, we stopped worrying about “the moral issue here.”
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buka001 said:
I have asked you several times about her and you have failed on every occasion to object in any way what so ever about her overt display of Nazism.

Soldierman called it out. You can't.
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www.nbcnews.com

Auschwitz Museum denounces woman holding Nazi sign at Illinois protest

A nurse captured the photo of a woman wearing an American flag mask and holding a sign in German that read "Arbeit macht frei," or "Work will set you free."
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A nurse captured the photo of a woman wearing an American flag mask and holding a sign in German that read "Arbeit macht frei," or "Work will set you free."

The Auschwitz Museum and Memorial and Illinois' governor denounced the use of Nazi slogans at a Chicago protest to ease lockdown measures after a photo of a woman holding a sign with a German phrase circulated online.

Dennis Kosuth, a registered nurse, captured the photo of a woman wearing an American flag mask and holding a sign in German that read "Arbeit macht frei," or "Work will set you free," during a protest Friday at the Thompson Center.

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The woman said she is not a Nazi and had Jewish friends, according to Kosuth. NBC News was unable to identify and locate the woman in the photo for comment.

The Twitter account of the Auschwitz memorial in Poland shared Kosuth's photo on Twitter and said the phrase on her sign was a "cynical illusion" given to prisoners at the death camp.

"Those words became one of the icons of human hatred," the museum tweeted. "It's painful to see this symbol instrumentalized & used again to spread hate. It's a symptom of moral & intellectual degeneration."

In a statement Saturday, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, who is Jewish, addressed those carrying "signs filled with hate" at the protest against his strict lockdown measures amid the coronavirus pandemic.
 
Gnarls said:
ROLF, whataboutism and low grade trolling. I'll bite though. Please direct your bleating to cerebus et al. They did themselves proud wrt to Justice Kavannaugh.

/edit
inb4 their revisionist we always wanted a fair trial bleatings.
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Heh, complains about whataboutism and then immediately whatabouts. Classic Gnarls.

Gnarls said:
Did Don Jr do any of that? Also, the term a broken clock is right twice a day rings true here.
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lol.

www.businessinsider.com.au

Donald Trump Jr. was reportedly cheating on his pregnant wife with an 'Apprentice' contestant until his father told him to 'cut it out'

President Donald Trump allegedly pressured his eldest son to stay married to Vanessa Trump.
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Gnarls said:
Full blown TDS. YOU introduced that side show when the topic was on the dignity of work and the paucity of your argument was exposed. When this is pointed out to you, they're defending Nazis. As stated, the idiocy is breathtaking.
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Good example of how utterly meaningless the 'TDS' snarl has become.

buka and greg discuss a dimwit protester and her sign and Gnarls thinks it's 'Trump derangement syndrome'.

Ancalagon said:
Because Trump's guilt has nothing to do with whether Biden is guilty.

Perhaps Trump is guilty. Perhaps Biden is guilty. Trump being innocent or guilty in no way affects whether Biden is guilty or not.

I am not saying that Trump should not be investigated. I am saying, Biden should be held to his own standards. He said Believe All Women, so, he must live by that.

And that applies to Biden's own feminist supporters, many of whom were quick to deny the allegations against him.

Allegations against Trump - believe the women, Trump is guilty.
Allegations against Biden - doubt the woman, Biden must be innocent because reasons.

Double standard. Liberals call for investigations into Trump while attempting to shield Biden. Only after considerable pressure does there appear to be any change in Biden's response.
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Remarkable that you've taken an interest in these types of allegations at this very moment. :)

SoldierMan said:
Kinda like Joe Biden not willing to release his senate records? Yeah just like that.



Wonder what he is afraid will be uncovered? Seems he has the same problems as Trump these days. Two peas in a pod 'ey!
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You like making things up? No wonder you're such a Trump fan.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
So a Republican activist fabricates sexual assault allegations... and the response from conservatives is... silence? Shocking, I know.

All they know is projection.
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I've been following this since folk picked up on Sasha Pezenik's stinker of a twitter thread.

She posts the accusation in detail, and then casually mentions, half way through the thread, that it's been confirmed that Joe wasn't there

She's since posted:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1256960950034366466

That tweet's not going well for her and it kinda puts ABC on the spot too. She knew the story was false and ran with it anyway. It's malpractice.

Also, just wanted to remind folk who Christine O’Donnell is, real quick.

She ran for the Delaware Senate seat against Joe in 2008 and lost by 30 points. Then, when Joe vacated his seat to become VP, she ran again... but lost to Chris Coons by 17 points.

Also, she's absolutely, positively *not* a witch.


'Tho, to be fair, Kristen Wiig does Christine better than Christine does...


Anyway, watching her saying it was 2008 only to have that debunked in minutes, and then shifting to 2007, when Joe was in a different state and she'd already detailed the dinner happening during her run against him... in 2008... It's absurd.

It's absurd and sad.

She undermines real victims of assault, and we've had a news cycle based on a story that was debunked before it was published anyway.

Absurd and sad.
 
greg0205 said:
I've been following this since folk picked up on Sasha Pezenik's stinker of a twitter thread.

She posts the accusation in detail, and then casually mentions, half way through the thread, that it's been confirmed that Joe wasn't there

She's since posted:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1256960950034366466

That tweet's not going well for her and it kinda puts ABC on the spot too. She knew the story was false and ran with it anyway. It's malpractice.

Also, just wanted to remind folk who Christine O’Donnell is, real quick.

She ran for the Delaware Senate seat against Joe in 2008 and lost by 30 points. Then, when Joe vacated his seat to become VP, she ran again... but lost to Chris Coons by 17 points.

Also, she's absolutely, positively *not* a witch.


'Tho, to be fair, Kristen Wiig does Christine better than Christine does...


Anyway, watching her saying it was 2008 only to have that debunked in minutes, and then shifting to 2007, when Joe was in a different state and she'd already detailed the dinner happening during her run against him... in 2008... It's absurd.

It's absurd and sad.

She undermines real victims of assault, and we've had a news cycle based on a story that was debunked before it was published anyway.

Absurd and sad.
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Yeah, O'Donnell's behaviour is disgusting.

I kinda feel for that ABC reporter, though. That tweet she had to put up is stupid, too. Completely stiff and corporate. Should have just let her apologise and point to the actual point of the story, which is O'Donnell's fabrication*.

*what are the odds the Jussie Smollett ragers care one iota about this, you think? ;)
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Yeah, O'Donnell's behaviour is disgusting.

I kinda feel for that ABC reporter, though. That tweet she had to put up is stupid, too. Completely stiff and corporate. Should have just let her apologise and point to the actual point of the story, which is O'Donnell's fabrication*.

*what are the odds the Jussie Smollett ragers care one iota about this, you think? ;)
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Pezenik should have lead with: "In a story that's already been debunked, Christine O’Donnell claims..."

And yeah, there will be bad faith MeToo takes here shortly.
 
In response to a questioner who was asking for less divisiveness, Donald J Trump, in front of a statue of Lincoln, says he's been treated worse than... Lincoln.
 
greg0205 said:
When a war criminal has more empathy with average Americans than their president.
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Wouldn't surprise me if the Democrats use it in their campaigning.

www.independent.co.uk

George W Bush calls for US unity in face of coronavirus

Video, featuring images of Americans' social distancing, frontline workers and emotional scenes of 9/11 fallout, has had more than 4m views
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'We are not partisan combatants': George W Bush posts emotional coronavirus video calling for unity

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George W. Bush: 'We are not partisan combatants' in fight against coronavirus

Bush's comments come as Democratic governors clash with Republican President Donald Trump over the White House's coronavirus response.
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Former President George W. Bush called on Americans to abandon partisan divides in the face of the "shared threat" of the coronavirus pandemic in a video released on Saturday.

Bush's comments come as Democratic governors clash with Republican President Donald Trump over the White House's coronavirus response, and even drugs that could treat the virus are politicized.
More than a million Americans have tested positive for coronavirus, and well over 60,000 people have died from the virus in the United States. The White House has said it expects total deaths to rise to 74,000 by August.

"Let us remember how small our differences are in the face of this shared threat," Bush said. "In the final analysis, we are not partisan combatants. We are human beings, equally vulnerable and equally wonderful in the sight of God. We rise or fall together."

In the nearly 3-minute video, shared by the George W. Bush Presidential Center, Bush said he saw the nation "embrace unavoidable new duties" after the 9/11 terror attacks, and that "spirit is alive and well in America." The former president also issued a warning that the impact of the pandemic will not be felt equally.

"Let's remember that the suffering we experience as a nation does not fall evenly. In the days to come, it will be especially important to care in practical ways for the elderly, the ill and the unemployed," Bush said. More than 30 million people have filed for unemployment in the last six weeks, as the economy has largely shut down to combat the pandemic.
 
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And here's the leadership and compassion

nymag.com

Trump Berates George W. Bush for Calling for Unity During the Coronavirus

After Bush published an innocuous message calling for unity during the pandemic, Trump lambasted him for staying quiet during his impeachment trial.
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thehill.com

Trump rips George W. Bush after he calls for unity amid coronavirus outbreak

President Trump on Sunday took aim at George W. Bush after the former Republican president issued a call to push partisanship aside amid the outbreak of the novel coronavirus. In a three-minut…
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TysonRoux said:
And here's the leadership and compassion

nymag.com

Trump Berates George W. Bush for Calling for Unity During the Coronavirus

After Bush published an innocuous message calling for unity during the pandemic, Trump lambasted him for staying quiet during his impeachment trial.
nymag.com nymag.com

thehill.com

Trump rips George W. Bush after he calls for unity amid coronavirus outbreak

President Trump on Sunday took aim at George W. Bush after the former Republican president issued a call to push partisanship aside amid the outbreak of the novel coronavirus. In a three-minut…
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Lol. It always has to be about him.
 
Voice of sanity:


www.foxnews.com

Dr. Birx: Michigan protests ‘devastatingly worrisome’; vaccine ‘possible’ by January

Dr. Deborah Birx, coordinator of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, warned that some activities that Americans are engaging in across the country are potentially putting lives in danger as the coronavirus pandemic continues to plague the nation.
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Dr. Birx: Michigan protests ‘devastatingly worrisome’; vaccine ‘possible’ by January

In a "Fox News Sunday" interview, Birx weighed in on recent incidents ranging from crowds flocking to Califonia beaches to the reopening of salons and spas, but came down particularly hard on Michigan protesters who stormed the state capitol in large numbers without wearing masks.

"It’s devastatingly worrisome to me personally because if they go home and infect their grandmother or their grandfather who has a co-morbid condition and they have a serious or a very unfortunate outcome, they will feel guilty for the rest of our lives," Birx said. "So we need to protect each other at the same time we’re voicing our discontent."
 
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