US Election 2020

[Unhappy438]

No you flippen don't. You literally said that lynching has its place and should not be illegal.

You do know why he is called trolltrot right?

 

[AlmightyBender]

You do know why he is called trolltrot right?

I don't think he's trolling, just telling it like he sees it. And he sees it like lynching has its place. Considering that lynching has a very specific definition that he is clearly aware of, read into that what you will.

 

[rietrot]

TIL that Republicans are SJW's.

Yes they are. I already said I'm with the 4 that were brave enough to stand up and vote against this nonsense.

 

[rietrot]

Is lynching, in the context as defined with this amendment, a hate crime or not?

What is the obsession with calling stuff a "hatecrime". That isn't even a real crime. Murder is the real crime. "Hate crime" only speaks to motive.

Can a lynching in the US not be a hate crime now? What if there's some community justice like we get here in SA and a bunch of guys hang another guy of the some skin tone from a tree?

 

[buka001]

Yes they are. I already said I'm with the 4 that were brave enough to stand up and vote against this nonsense.

You trol, you troll.

Republicans are SJW's when it suits you, but brave defenders of Trump from the impeachment sham brought upon him by the SJW's. I guess they are the Schrodingers Cat of SJW's.

 

[buka001]

What is the obsession with calling stuff a "hatecrime". That isn't even a real crime. Murder is the real crime. "Hate crime" only speaks to motive.

Can a lynching in the US not be a hate crime now? What if there's some comunity justice like we get here in SA and a bunch of guys hang another guy of the some skin tone from a tree?

This bill makes it a Federal Crime. Takes it away from the States, brings about more serious consequences for it.

 

[rietrot]

You trol, you troll.

Republicans are SJW's when it suits you, but brave defenders of Trump from the impeachment sham brought upon him by the SJW's. I guess they are the Schrodingers Cat of SJW's.

I can agree on some actions they take and disagree with others.

It's not a cult. They don't have my unwavering support in all things.

 

[rietrot]

This bill makes it a Federal Crime. Takes it away from the States, brings about more serious consequences for it.

More serious than murder?

 

[buka001]

More serious than murder?

By making it a Federal crime the Fed's get to prosecute. It can take away the assumption of local bias that has permeated many hate crime related cases before.

In other words if a black guy is killed in Montgomery Alabama, instead of facing a jury of local residents, the defendant gets to face Federal Prosecutors. Then if the accused is acquitted for the murder the usual claim of local bias will no longer have any merit. The perception of bias will be less.

It will help to take away a lot of the emotional outrage that comes with verdicts of this nature.

 

[rietrot]

By making it a Federal crime the Fed's get to prosecute. It can take away the assumption of local bias that has permeated many hate crime related cases before.

In other words if a black guy is killed in Montgomery Alabama, instead of facing a jury of local residents, the defendant gets to face Federal Prosecutors. Then if the accused is acquitted for the murder the usual claim of local bias will no longer have any merit. The perception of bias will be less.

It will help to take away a lot of the emotional outrage that comes with verdicts of this nature.

Thank goodness for that. At least now they will be prepared if the clan members from 1920 figure out how to time travel.

 

[buka001]

Thank goodness for that. At least now they will be prepared if the clan members from 1920 figure out how to time travel.

Using Konfabs misdirection as an example the mob that beat the truck driver would have received harsher sentences for their crimes, under this legislation.

To naively state that crime of this nature will not happen in future, is well naive, especially given the weird trend of late for many people to revive the Nazi Ideology in these small random groups in America.

 

[konfab]

Quite an interesting view where you want to deflect from the events that forced removal of thousands of black people from their homes and the thousands of lynchings of black people, with a comparison of an assault on one person? Why is that?

Because the bill defines lynchings as a group of people violently assaulting a person (or persons). I was demonstrating that the existing legal system is quite capable of dealing with the matter.

The bill looks to promote reconciliation and acknowledgement of events that have been hidden.

It doesn't.
It states that something that already is a crime, is actually a crime.

If they wanted to acknowledge the events, they would have passed a resolution recognising the events. like they did with the Rwandan genocide.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-resolution/122/text

 

[daveza]

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2020

President Donald Trump tapped Vice President Mike Pence to lead the country’s response to the coronavirus .

 

[buka001]

Because the bill defines lynchings as a group of people violently assaulting a person (or persons). I was demonstrating that the existing legal system is quite capable of dealing with the matter.



It doesn't.
It states that something that already is a crime, is actually a crime.

If they wanted to acknowledge the events, they would have passed a resolution recognising the events. like they did with the Rwandan genocide.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-resolution/122/text

They passed a resolution in 2005 acknowledging the Senates failure to act appropriately through history. This Bill mentions that. This bill acknowledges the history of lynching.

It makes it federal and should something like this happen again, allows it to be prosecuted at a Federal Level, unlike the case of Emmit Till.

So that if something like this happens again the influence of local bias can be removed from the trial, granting the accused a fairer trial. Is that wrong?

 

[cerebus]

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President Donald Trump tapped Vice President Mike Pence to lead the country’s response to the coronavirus .

Oh Mike Pence is actually worse than that:

Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak.

Here's what to do if you want to create a public health crisis.

www.huffpost.com

Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak
Here's what to do if you want to create a public health crisis.

 

[lumeer]

Thank goodness for that. At least now they will be prepared if the clan members from 1920 figure out how to time travel.

There have been lynchings more recently than that, as recently as 1955. The issue of lynchings is a very sensitive one for black folk in America.

 

[lumeer]

It looks like the Dow Jones is in for another hiding today.

 

[rietrot]

There have been lynchings more recently than that, as recently as 1955. The issue of lynchings is a very sensitive one for black folk in America.

1955... 99.99% of all black people have never seen or experienced a lynching. Maybe they'll get over their issues if somebody tell them they don't have to be the victim of the evil white man anymore. They don't even need the virtue signaling other white men to make symbolic laws protect them.

They could just buy a gun and protect themselves. It is America after all.

 

[lumeer]

1955... 99.99% of all black people have never seen or experienced a lynching. Maybe they'll get over their issues if somebody tell them they don't have to be the victim of the evil white man anymore. They don't even need the virtue signaling other white men to make symbolic laws protect them.

They could just buy a gun and protect themselves. It is America after all.

You wouldn't - couldn't - understand, as you lack empathy. I cannot expect you to understand an issue like this. You are emotionally incapable of understanding that some people feel emotional hurt over this. It's not your fault, but it's pointless to expect you to understand.

 

[buka001]

There have been lynchings more recently than that, as recently as 1955. The issue of lynchings is a very sensitive one for black folk in America.

1981 actually. KKK lynched a young African/American.