US Firm Oracle Pulls Plug on Eskom

cda said:
Its not actually that difficult if you have competent people
Oh, damn, that ship sailed. Literally
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And just out of interest, what is the largest system you have developed or been involved in developing before? And what compliance and regulatory frameworks did it have to conform to?
 
cda said:
Its not actually that difficult if you have competent people
Oh, damn, that ship sailed. Literally
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Never said it would be difficult. I said it would be cost-prohibitive.

The cost of paying Oracle what they claim to be owed would likely still be far cheaper than developing a bunch of custom solutions for a company the size and scope of Eskom.

Assuming the current solutions are fit for purpose and the company is faced with capital shortages why exactly would they opt for the more expensive approach?
 
ToxicBunny said:
But Oracle is used by many banks, both modern and legacy. It's used by many fortune 500 companies, etc.
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Yup, and several million people voted for Trump, and Zuma... Popularity isn't always the smartest choice, most people are idiots.
 
cda said:
Yup, and several million people voted for Trump, and Zuma... Popularity isn't always the smartest choice, most people are idiots.
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Ahhh OK so now it's a popularity contest and because a company uses oracle they must immediately be stupid...

Must be the same for MS sql hey?
 
ToxicBunny said:
Ummm amazon used oracle until 2020 just btw...

But Oracle is used by many banks, both modern and legacy. It's used by many fortune 500 companies, etc.

FYI I detest oracle DB
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Tbh, Oracle DB isn't that bad, the real issue is Oracle DB support, BS of waiting for ages that they support new hardware or acknowledge that there is an issue. In terms of the DB itself, I find it's got less "weird" things in PSQL than in MS SQL, but Microsoft has finally being doing really nice catch-up. That said, I learnt SQL on PSQL and first side projects I contracted were PSQL, now I use MS SQL for a bit over two years now.

I am expecting the Eskom "risk mitigation" plan to be the same as the police one:
Just steal the software.
 
ToxicBunny said:
And just out of interest, what is the largest system you have developed or been involved in developing before? And what compliance and regulatory frameworks did it have to conform to?
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None of your business
 
Easier ways to tell Oracle you're dumping their horrendously expensive software in favor of SQL! While Oracle is good, it comes at a very steep price. If you think Microsoft has screwed people in the past, check out Oracle's licensing...
 
Exactly the danger of any cloud contract! It certainly was in writing anyway so very clear to see if Oracle or Eskom is in the wrong. Thing is Eskom has not got a lot right the last few years so... It was the same with the Microsoft contracts when they arbitrarily changed the tariffs for MS SQL licensing - thing is they can, and you just have to pay up. Use open source instead I say.
 
ToxicBunny said:
So that would be small and maybe medium sized projects at best and nothing even approaching enterprise scale then... Cool.
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What have you worked on? Are you one of those 9-5 droids at Towers North working on 20 year old JBoss code?
 
cda said:
What have you worked on? Are you one of those 9-5 droids at Towers North working on 20 year old JBoss code?
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Well since you arent forthcoming with any vague details I'll be vague. I've worked on large scale transactional systems with a wide variety of technologies.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Well since you arent forthcoming with any vague details I'll be vague. I've worked on large scale transactional systems with a wide variety of technologies.
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I bet the people at Eskom put something similar on their CV, including the janitors.
 
upup said:
I keep on thinking of that woman at sars, her family must be at eskom IT department.
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Considering Oracle had claimed underpayment of R7.3b and then changed their minds and indicated it is "just" R400m I suspect she must have some relatives at Oracle too.
 
Let me guess, Oracle pops up with a daily notification to add coal into the furnace, to load coal onto conveyer belts and ensure wet coal are aired out to dry...

Also, please do not forget to take the 10 o'clock tea break and your lunch at 12.

How does anyone survive without Oracle...
 
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