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Hamish McPanji said:
Sure, since 2014 he was under investigation. He didn't work for the Trump campaign at all, of course...that was fake news
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How come Tony Podesta knew to submit 5 years of records just before Manafort was picked up? Why did Tony Podesta shut down a business that made a profit of $20 million in the preceding year? Does this strike you as the behaviour of an innocent man?

And Manafort is supposed to have worked for Trump, for what, 2 months? There's no evidence of any wrongdoing during his time with Trump as of yet, the evidence of wrongdoing all points to stuff he did while he was working with the Podestas.

You're not telling me that your suspicion counts as evidence, are you?
 
Xarog said:
You're not telling me that your suspicion counts as evidence, are you?
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No, I am telling you that I have long held the "wait and see" approach regarding this. So not the "declare innocent everyday" , or the "guilty as charged" attitude.

What is your and reitrot's approach exactly? I don't need an answer to that, I already know.
 
Hamish McPanji said:
No, I am telling you that I have long held the "wait and see" approach regarding this. So not the "declare innocent everyday" , or the "guilty as charged" attitude.

What is your and reitrot's approach exactly? I don't need an answer to that, I already know.
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Yeah its the common sense approach to a case nobody from the outside truly knows anything about.
 
Unhappy438 said:
Yeah its the common sense approach to a case nobody from the outside truly knows anything about.
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[video=youtube_share;n8ccn2oE3v4]https://youtu.be/n8ccn2oE3v4[/video]
Deep state desperation. ;)
 
^ And almost as if to underline Xarog's Comedians On YouTube Having Breakdowns post...

Lawyer Alex Van Der Zwaan will plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI about communications with Rick Gates and "Person A".

https://lawfareblog.com/document-alex-van-der-zwaan-information

For folk keeping score, Comedians 0: Muller 4 guilty and, what are we up to now, 15 indictments.
 
greg0205 said:
^ And almost as if to underline Xarog's Comedians On YouTube Having Breakdowns post...

Lawyer Alex Van Der Zwaan will plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI about communications with Rick Gates and "Person A".

https://lawfareblog.com/document-alex-van-der-zwaan-information

For folk keeping score, Comedians 0: Muller 4 guilty and, what are we up to now, 15 indictments.
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I'm sure you have a nice explanation for why Flynn's guilt is a foregone conclusion given that the whole case has been postponed. Because if you don't, then your tallying becomes rather suspect, doesn't it?
 
Xarog said:
I'm sure you have a nice explanation for why Flynn's guilt is a foregone conclusion given that the whole case has been postponed. Because if you don't, then your tallying becomes rather suspect, doesn't it?
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Lets go to the TMO

Is there any reason I can't award the guilty plea?

Flynn's guilty plea is still in the books, in spite of some fringe media and MyBB members wishing it were otherwise. You may award the guilty plea.

Guilty stands! Thats Papadopoulos, Flynn, Pinedo and Van Der Zwaan, 'tho we might be back here later for a fifth if Gates goes today.
 
greg0205 said:
Lets go to the TMO

Is there any reason I can't award the guilty plea?

Flynn's guilty plea still in the books, in spite of some fringe media and MyBB members wishing it were otherwise. You may award the guilty plea.

Guilty stands! Thats Papadopoulos, Flynn, Pinedo and Van Der Zwaan, 'tho we might be back here later for a fifth if Gates goes today.
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You can certainly assert an opinion, but if you can't actually give an account of the facts for and against the plea, why shouldn't one assume that you are simply speaking out of ignorance?

Can you tell me the name of the judge in charge of the case, and why his history is significant given the order that he just granted with respect to the court case? Can you say what exactly this order was?
 
Xarog said:
You can certainly assert an opinion, but if you can't actually give an account of the facts for and against the plea, why shouldn't one assume that you are simply speaking out of ignorance?

Can you tell me the name of the judge in charge of the case, and why his history is significant given the order that he just granted with respect to the court case? Can you say what exactly this order was?
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Can you tell me why I need to indulge your conspiracy theory when a guilty plea is a irrefutable matter of public record? If it's overturned, sure, we'll discuss... Until then, keep it in your dumpster fire thread.
 
greg0205 said:
Can you tell me why I need to indulge your conspiracy theory when a guilty plea is a irrefutable matter of public record? If it's overturned, sure, we'll discuss... Until then, keep it in your dumpster fire thread.
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All the questions I asked can be ascertained via the public record. I am sure you will find the answers informative if you take all the publicly reported facts together and use a little bit of common sense. Although I admit I should probably have added that the previous judge was recused from the case, as well.

But basically, it sure looks like the fix was in, and boy did they ever pick the right judge to figure out if that was indeed the case.
 
greg0205 said:
Can you tell me why I need to indulge your conspiracy theory when a guilty plea is a irrefutable matter of public record? If it's overturned, sure, we'll discuss... Until then, keep it in your dumpster fire thread.
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Ja
 
Fox News’s appalling past 72 hours, analyzed

On Friday, FBI special counsel Robert Mueller filed the first charges against Russians in his investigation. The indictment details how a small group of Russian internet trolls tried to leverage America’s deep ideological divide to interfere with “political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.”

It doesn’t say whether the Trump campaign knew about this effort, or that it changed the election results. Rather, it methodically laid out a story of how Russians influenced American politics.

But on Fox News, there was a different story crafted over the weekend.
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The rest at... https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/17027456/fox-news-mueller-indictment-trump
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rieve-bad-publicity-white-house-a8218746.html

A Trump White House official reportedly said coverage of the mass shooting at a Florida high school last week has given the administration “a reprieve” from having to deal with bad publicity.

“For everyone, it was a distraction or a reprieve,” the official told the Washington Post. “A lot of people here felt like it was a reprieve from seven or eight days of just getting pummeled.”

The official said there was a similar calm in the wake of the mass shooting in Las Vegas that left 58 dead and hundreds more injured.

“But as we all know, sadly, when the coverage dies down a little bit, we’ll be back through the chaos,” the official reportedly said.
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:sick:
 
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ht-guard-heckler-how-much-are-you-worth-nancy

During a*Tuesday stop-off in Phoenix to trash talk the "disastrous" GOP tax cuts*at the Arizona Center for Economic Progress, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was startled at a question over her net worth by an audience member who couldn't stomach the top Democrat's ivory-tower oratory over wealth inequality
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Lol the hypocrisy is amazing. Probably why I can never support the Dems they don't even belive their own BS.
 
In November, Trump won the Kentucky State House District 49 by 72-23

Yesterday Linda Belcher, the Dem, won a special election there 68-32

For those counting, that's an 86 point swing.
 
greg0205 said:
In November, Trump won the Kentucky State House District 49 by 72-23

Yesterday Linda Belcher, the Dem, won a special election there 68-32

For those counting, that's an 86 point swing.
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Already posted. It's good to see democracy at work and Trump finally doing what he was elected to do.
 
rietrot said:
Already posted. It's good to see democracy at work and Trump finally doing what he was elected to do.
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Losing key districts? I'm sorry, I know you live in delusionville but how on earth is this a win for Trump? I don't think he ever intended for the swamp to be drained by Dems.
 
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