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https://saraacarter.com/former-top-...eriously-considered-secretly-recording-trump/

Former FBI General Counsel James Baker told lawmakers last week that based on conversations with senior FBI officials, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was “seriously” considering secretly recording President Trump’s conversations. Rosenstein also discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment on the president in an effort to remove him from office for being unfit. This, according to sources with direct knowledge of Baker’s deposition.

Baker said he met with former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and former FBI attorney Lisa Page shortly after their meeting with Rosenstein in May, 2017. He told lawmakers that McCabe, Page and Rosenstein had discussed the possibility of secretly recording President Trump. Baker, who was the top lawyer for the FBI and a close confidant of Comey, noted that he was not in the meeting with Rosenstein. A source with direct knowledge of the testimony claims Baker testified that “Andy McCabe, Lisa Page took seriously what Rosenstein had said, and when they returned to the office, the three of them discussed the possibility of secretly recording Trump.”
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The only thing left to complete the Pitbull triggering is to post pictures of people kneeling.
 
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Unhappy438 said:
The only thing left to complete the Pitbull triggering is to post pictures of people kneeling.
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Cray said:
How is kneeling showing disrespect...?
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Who knew "libertarian" NBFTW would be keen on enforced patriotic virtue signalling. :laugh:

cerebus said:
You know what would be just wonderful? If Pitbull, or you, or anyone on the right could post some counter-facts, from any source, showing how the opinions of all the journalists, legal experts, constitutional scholars, and so on in these interviews are false, and Trump isn't actually advocating due process revocation as everyone seems to think he is. Hell, all I posted were the links from the first page of Google results. Surely you care about facts and you aren't just dismissing sources you don't like purely because you think they're leftist? I would never have imagined you to be so intransigently biased. :sneaky:
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If they had facts, they wouldn't be going on about libtards and "lib tears" all the time. Or maybe they would. :sneaky:

konfab said:
Not according to the Democrats.
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Phew, that's some stunning dishonesty there, konfab.

konfab said:
How dare he get annoyed with the people who are accusing him of gang rape and sexual assault without any evidence for obviously partisan reasons.
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Which Senate Judiciary Democrats accused of him that? Because those were the people he was ranting at, including with bizarre Clintonian conspiracies.

Weird that Sonia Sotomayor didn't start screaming at Republicans when they called her a "hot headed" latina racist who wouldn't be able to be a level-headed jurist.

Pitbull said:
We're not blinded by Trump hate hysteria. This has become evidently clear yesterday in about 8 pages of Cerebus (the smart guy that he is) actually could not read or comprehend sentences purely because it didn't say what he wanted it to say. We can see things for what they are whether you agree with it or not. Your "game" is up now. I know exactly how you play this thread with your obtuse questions, baiting people into a debate and then try and get them to contradict themselves or argue about semantics.
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Yes, of course you and people you agree with are being reasonable and have the facts, while everyone who disagrees with you is blinded by hysteria. Very convenient.

I mean, what you're describing was perfectly exemplified by Temujin's absurd fingers-in-the-ears performance about Trump's clear hypocrisy on due process.

Pitbull said:
It's extremely sad that educated people can't sit and debate something without having agendas. Someone actually pointed it out yesterday in this thread and I fully agreed. Both sides will fight dirty to try and get a point.
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Read through the last 20+ pages and see who it is that's calling everyone that disagrees with them libtards all the time, and tell us more about how "educated people can't sit and debate something without having agendas".
 
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Emjay said:
You do realise that you are the biggest hypocrite when it comes to due process in this group, right?
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How?

Emjay said:
The funny thing is that Hillary got her due process and then some.
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So if she got due process in your view, and it cleared her, why are they still calling for her to be jailed, including Trump? Could it be that due process is not actually what they're interested in...? Surely not!

Emjay said:
Look at the rise of Fox News. There is a market for alternative news sources.
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Is this some kind of bizarre parody?

If you're interested in misinformation on a global scale - look no further than Fox News. They've been poisoning the well for decades.

Pitbull said:
Sorry, what due process is not being followed here when it comes to seeking asylum/refugee status? You clutching, and very badly...
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You've been provided the evidence, you choose to ignore it, which you're allowed, of course. :)

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/16/immigration-border-asylum-central-america/
https://www.texasmonthly.com/politi...-question-legality-of-latest-federal-tactics/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...blocking-people-seeking-asylum-report-n754416
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...p-cant-deport-without-judges-2018-6?r=US&IR=T

Pitbull said:
Wait, so the costs were for him attending? He walked out due to the protest and now all of a sudden the costs has something to do with him walking out?
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Spending the money for the trip with the only goal being the walk-out PR stunt is an absurd waste of money. He deviated from his own itinerary at short notice to fly to the Colts game for it.
 
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access said:
i would say cnn has(had) a much bigger global reach
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Hmm, doubtful, as Rupert Murdoch's empire owns almost all major media (print and broadcast) in Australia and NZ, a huge part of UK media, is broadcast globally, etc. CNN is also broadcast globally but they don't own publishing houses or news orgs.

But I was also meaning in terms of content itself, not just reach. CNN sucks (as does most cable news, because the business model sucks), but it doesn't come close to the depths of terribleness of Fox News.
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
CNN sucks (as does most cable news, because the business model sucks), but it doesn't come close to the depths of terribleness of Fox News.
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They are two sides of the same coin but the idea that Fox is anything but mainstream is laughable.
 
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Unhappy438 said:
They are two sides of the same coin but the idea that Fox is anything but mainstream is laughable.
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I don't think they are. CNN aired Trump rallies in their entirety (something they never did for any Dem candidate), they have scores of pro-Trump 'contributors' on all their shows, they spent (exponentially) more time on things like Clinton's emails than any of Trump's scandals.
 
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I don't think they are. CNN aired Trump rallies in their entirety (something they never did for any Dem candidate), they have scores of pro-Trump 'contributors' on all their shows, they spent (exponentially) more time on things like Clinton's emails than any of Trump's scandals.
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Yeah but none of that is out of some kind quest for objectivity. Its all about ratings and profit margins, Trump is the best thing thats happened to the medias back pocket. Fox News reporting on the Trump Russia story doesnt automatically make them more neutral.
 
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Unhappy438 said:
Yeah but none of that is out of some kind quest for objectivity. Its all about ratings and profit margins, Trump is the best thing thats happened to the medias back pocket. Fox News reporting on the Trump Russia story doesnt automatically make them more neutral.
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Yes, for sure. I'm not disagreeing about the profit aspect (see my comment re. cable news business models being terrible). But their behaviour and reporting simply aren't nearly equally egregious, imo, despite both being bad (for reasons they share and ones they don't).
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
Who knew "libertarian" NBFTW would be keen on enforced patriotic virtue signalling. :laugh:
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So we now know you are both too lazy to read follow up posts and also too unoriginal to conjure a new line. It was easily dismissed the first time round, this is more of the same.

Pretend this is written in big crayon letters, in a friendly font with lovely colours if you must:
Libertarianism IS NOT forcing your views on others, IT IS respecting the views / race / creed / religion / custom of all others regardless of one's own opinion.

These "protesters" are free to practice whatever they wish in private, however, in the public eye, in your official role as a NFL professional who knows full well what is expected of you during their customs, you do what is expected of you or you quit, simple.
 
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