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Xarog

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And you talk about bubbles and folk having their heads in the sand... Wow.

So let me get this straight... According to you, if the Dems win the house and Senate they, the Dems, plan to... kill... the Russia investigation? That's what you're saying, right?

Your meds are past their sell-by mate. Way past.
Oooh, I missed this; I was looking for your other post about all those guilty pleas...

Well, I guess that politico story sure is coming in handy now. Yes, I think they were planning to kill the Russiagate investigation because they're terrified of having the proof of their sedition see the light of day.

You see, the thing is that Mueller is conveniently obstructing anyone from actually doing any oversight over what happened in the run-up to the election because that information is part of an "ongiong investigation". If the Dems win the house and senate, then they can just kill the investigations directly and use more direct means to get rid of Trump.

Eight guilty, fifteen more indictments and a whole bunch of cooperating with Mueller going on... You know, a quiet Friday.

So let's tally up the facts as they currently stand:

Downer, Halper and Mifsud are all pro-Clinton spies.

https://thehill.com/policy/national...ulos-info-triggered-fbis-russia-investigation

We now know that the Papadopoulis stuff was Operation Crossfire Hurricane and so there was no reason for the FBI to believe that the information they themselves had planted was in any way significant. If the Papadoupolis stuff was all a hoax, then there's nothing but the Steele dossier to substantiate the Carter Page warrant. But James Baker had met with Sussman and knew that the Steele dossier was opposition research and even if that weren't true we still also know that the FBI never established any sort of probable cause with respect to the information in the dossier, which means that the FISA application itself was applied for by a bunch of people knowingly acting in bad faith regardless.

Not bad for a "quiet friday", eh? :cool:
 
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And this line of questions reveals the real reason the Dems were so desperate to stop the nomination. Now that Kavanaugh has been confirmed before the midterms, there's no prospect of stopping Trump from getting his military tribunals against the people who tried to sabotage his election.


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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...d-to-address-if-he-cant-he-should-be-in-jail/

The entire Mueller witch hunt was created by DAG Rod Rosenstein and its arguably unconstitutional and illegal. Rosenstein set up Robert Mueller as the Head of the investigation shortly after Mueller was turned down for the Head of the FBI by President Trump. Rosenstein’s special counsel order identified collusion as the crime but no such crime exists in US Law.

Gregg Jarrett at FOX News wrote when Mueller initially brought charges against Manafort that Mueller was tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. Mueller is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable because there is no such thing as the crime of collusion with foreign countries in the US statutory code.

Jarrett wrote the most succinct article about the Trump – Russia Collusion investigation to date. In his post Jarrett makes many statements that are almost shocking, but none more than the fact that the entire investigation is lawless. Jarrett states the following about the recent charges reported in the Russia collusion story –

George Papadopoulos pled guilty to a single charge of making a false statement to the FBI. He was not charged with so-called “collusion” because no such crime exists in American statutory law, except in anti-trust matters. It has no application to elections and political campaigns.​
It is not a crime to talk to a Russian. Not that the media would ever understand that. They have never managed to point to a single statute that makes “colluding” with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime, likely because it does not exist in the criminal codes.​

The problem for Rosenstein is that when he set up the Mueller witch hunt he was clear that there was no crime identified. Rosenstein’s order said the following –

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:​
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals (i) associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and​
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).​
If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.​

The problem that Jarrett notes about Rosenstein not having identified a crime goes back to the statements Rosenstein made when he set up the Special Counsel –


In my capacity as acting attorney general I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a special counsel to assume responsibility for this matter,’’ Rosenstein said in a statement. “My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination. What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command.”​

Rosenstein stated clearly that no crimes had been committed and he never pointed out the specific crimes that the special counsel was to address. This is what Congress must address with DAG Rosenstein and define.
Seems Rosey's in a pinch! Especially since Trump's stated reason for firing Comey was Rosenstein's recommendation. Hey, wasn't he one of the ones who signed off on the dodgy FISA warrant? :unsure:
 

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Trump Admin Says There is No Evidence Obama Wiretapped Trump

The Trump administration just confirmed–for at least the second time–that there is no evidence then-candidate Donald Trump was wire-tapped at Trump Tower in late 2016.

In a 178-page court filing released late Friday night, the Department of Justice noted, “[t]he Government has made two acknowledgments” regarding claims that the previous administration of Barack Obama wiretapped Trump near the tail-end of the 2016 general election.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-admin-says-there-is-no-evidence-obama-wiretapped-trump/

But muh microwaves!?!
 

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Trump Admin Says There is No Evidence Obama Wiretapped Trump



https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-admin-says-there-is-no-evidence-obama-wiretapped-trump/

But muh microwaves!?!
Isn't it nice that the source you use to claim that Trump wasn't wiretapped in Trump tower is the same source that admits the FBI used multiple spies to infiltrate the campaign? :ROFL:

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...l-emergency-mexico-loses-control-migrant-army

Since President Trump threatened to close the Southern border due to Honduras' unwillingness to comply with his requests for assistance in stopping a migrant caravan marching toward the US, the migrants have successfully crossed into Mexico and on Sunday regrouped after being temporarily delayed at the Mexican border by border guards who failed to force the migrants to turn back.
So, for the second time this year, it appears President Trump is ready to send more US troops to the border, as he said in a tweet Monday morning that he'd notified the border patrol and military that this is a "national emergency" while reiterating that the blame lay with Democrats for refusing to change our "pathetic" immigration laws.


And since Honduras and Guatemala did nothing to stop the migrants despite Trump's requests for assistance, the president added that we would be cutting off aid: "We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them."
Orangebadman bad?
 

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The people funding this caravan are truelly evil to use these poor people as human fodder for their political agenda. And already there are several Soros-linked NGOs speculated to be involved. Shame, not only is he evil but also monumentally stupid if he is involved.
 

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Someone just tried to blow up Soros
An explosive device was found on Monday in a mailbox at the Westchester County home of George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist who is a favorite target of right-wing groups, the authorities said.
A law enforcement official confirmed that the device was found near Mr. Soros’s home. It did not explode on its own, and bomb squad technicians “proactively detonated” it, the official said.
Federal and state law enforcement officials responded to the scene in Katonah, N.Y., a hamlet in the upscale town of Bedford in northern Westchester, after the Bedford Police Department received a call about a suspicious package at about 3:45 p.m.
“An employee of the residence opened the package, revealing what appeared to be an explosive device,” the police said in a statement. “The employee placed the package in a wooded area and called the Bedford police.”
 

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The people funding this caravan are truelly evil to use these poor people as human fodder for their political agenda. And already there are several Soros-linked NGOs speculated to be involved. Shame, not only is he evil but also monumentally stupid if he is involved.

Plus there's Middle Easterners in there or something.


Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy [sic]. Must change laws!,
 

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Plus there's Middle Easterners in there or something.


Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy [sic]. Must change laws!,


Dude sounds like he's dying.

Must...change...laws... as he crawls across the floor reaching for his phone, one last time.
 

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Sounds like some staged BS.
1: Soros is not the type to open his own mail
2: nothing exploded
1. He didn't open his own mail - didn't you read the article?
2. I know.
3. Funny that Techne was just having a little anti-Soros rant isn't it? Where was Techne yesterday?
 

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1. He didn't open his own mail - didn't you read the article?
2. I know.
3. Funny that Techne was just having a little anti-Soros rant isn't it? Where was Techne yesterday?
Shall I take it slow? Soros would never open his own mails, that's the point, so sending him a letter bomb is guaranteed to NOT kill him.

In addition to that, this thing didn't explode, you know, almost like it was a fake letter bomb that is only meant to make the news and not explode. So that people can claim Soros was targeted even though he would never have opened it anyway.

So: sounds staged
 
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