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cerebus said:
Why do I persist in debating with people when I know perfectly well I'm not going to get an honest response? You're telling me in all honesty that you think he wasn't applying that sentence to the Central Park Five, who were the subject of the whole article?
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The irony in here today :cautious:
 
cerebus said:
Why do I persist in debating with people when I know perfectly well I'm not going to get an honest response? You're telling me in all honesty that you think he wasn't applying that sentence to the Central Park Five, who were the subject of the whole article?
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Btw, does Trump apply sentences in court or does a Judge do it?

Trumps view on it is irrelevant when it comes to court and judgments. Trump's "feels" are irrelevant.
 
cerebus said:
Why do I persist in debating with people when I know perfectly well I'm not going to get an honest response? You're telling me in all honesty that you think he wasn't applying that sentence to the Central Park Five, who were the subject of the whole article?
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Dude, it is quite obvious.

Oranguatan currently in the White House said:
I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer, and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes.
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Two sentences. Two wildly different thought patterns. The first (obviously) refers to the Central Park 5. The second (obviously) refers to generic muggers and murderers.

How are you not seeing this?
 
cerebus said:
Why do I persist in debating with people when I know perfectly well I'm not going to get an honest response? You're telling me in all honesty that you think he wasn't applying that sentence to the Central Park Five, who were the subject of the whole article?
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Its your quote dude... its there, clear as day. 'when they kill, execute'... Just cos it doesn't fit your arguement, I'm not now going to start imagining it does.
They weren't the subject of it. The clear reference was made, but again, you must be seeing what you want to see. The subject was city crime was out of control, need more policing and free them up to do their jobs, and bring back death penatly.
Seems you haven't you actually read the ad?
 
Emjay said:
I make a snarky observation about your post, and that equals me calling everyone here libtards, without actually calling them libtards?

Yeah. I am just going to leave it at that.
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Seems to me your snark was the result of you being triggered by a conversation we had...





In your head.





But well done you for... I wanna say “knowing” what I *meant* to say without me saying anything like it... And double well done that you’re able to ignore that which you’ve done yourself, as you go after folk about things you’ve never said.
 
Pitbull said:
Btw, does Trump apply sentences in court or does a Judge do it?
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Jesus, Pitbull, this is obtuse. I mean, willfully ignorant is one thing, but you are taking this to Olympic levels.

Here: a handy definition for the word "sentence" as used by Cerebus

...a set of words that is complete in itself, typically containing a subject and predicate, conveying a statement, question, exclamation, or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.
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greg0205 said:
Seems to me your snark was the result of you being triggered by a conversation we had...


In your head.


But well done you for... I wanna say “knowing” what I *meant* to say without me saying anything like it... And double well done that you’re able to ignore that which you’ve done yourself, as you go after folk about things you’ve never said.
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Just like I called you a "Libtard"

In your head?

I can just never keep a straight face when replying to you. Fun, as always, greg. *blows a kiss*
 
scudsucker said:
Jesus, Pitbull, this is obtuse. I mean, willfully ignorant is one thing but you are taking this to Olympic levels.

Here: a handy definition for the word "sentence" as used by Cerebus
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My apologies. I honestly farked that one up all by myself.

Reading it again now :o

I honestly though he was referring to the sentence of "Executing them"
 
cerebus said:
So we've established that you're not going to give an honest response. I think we're done with this.
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I gave an honest answer... as said, just seeing what you want to see as evident with the quote you provided, shows my side of arguement, and yet you still refuse it...

Yeah done, we'll just keep going in circles, I'm sure we can at least both agree on that and both have better things to do /shrug
 
Mandatory Reading:
Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture
Youth isn’t a good proxy for support of political correctness, and race isn’t either.
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If age and race do not predict support for political correctness, what does? Income and education.
While 83 percent of respondents who make less than $50,000 dislike political correctness, just 70 percent of those who make more than $100,000 are skeptical about it. And while 87 percent who have never attended college think that political correctness has grown to be a problem, only 66 percent of those with a postgraduate degree share that sentiment.

Political tribe—as defined by the authors—is an even better predictor of views on political correctness. Among devoted conservatives, 97 percent believe that political correctness is a problem. Among traditional liberals, 61 percent do. Progressive activists are the only group that strongly backs political correctness: Only 30 percent see it as a problem.

So what does this group look like? Compared with the rest of the (nationally representative) polling sample, progressive activists are much more likely to be rich, highly educated—and white. They are nearly twice as likely as the average to make more than R1 495 693 a year. They are nearly three times as likely to have a postgraduate degree. And while 12 percent of the overall sample in the study is African American, only 3 percent of progressive activists are. With the exception of the small tribe of devoted conservatives, progressive activists are the most racially homogeneous group in the country.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/
 
OP-ed by The Donald Himself.

The truth is that the centrist Democratic Party is dead. The new Democrats are radical socialists who want to model America’s economy after Venezuela.
If Democrats win control of Congress this November, we will come dangerously closer to socialism in America. Government-run health care is just the beginning. Democrats are also pushing massive government control of education, private-sector businesses and other major sectors of the U.S. economy.
Every single citizen will be harmed by such a radical shift in American culture and life. Virtually everywhere it has been tried, socialism has brought suffering, misery and decay.
Indeed, the Democrats' commitment to government-run health care is all the more menacing to our seniors and our economy when paired with some Democrats' absolute commitment to end enforcement of our immigration laws by abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement. That means millions more would cross our borders illegally and take advantage of health care paid for by American taxpayers.
Today’s Democratic Party is for open-borders socialism. This radical agenda would destroy American prosperity. Under its vision, costs will spiral out of control. Taxes will skyrocket. And Democrats will seek to slash budgets for seniors’ Medicare, Social Security and defense.
Republicans believe that a Medicare program that was created for seniors and paid for by seniors their entire lives should always be protected and preserved. I am committed to resolutely defending Medicare and Social Security from the radical socialist plans of the Democrats. For the sake of our country, our prosperity, our seniors and all Americans — this is a fight we must win.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-medicare-all-single-payer-column/1560533002/


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https://thehill.com/business-a-lobb...-by-13-points-on-generic-congressional-ballot

Democrats hold a 13-point lead over Republicans among likely voters on the generic congressional ballot, according to a new poll from CNN.

The CNN survey, which was conducted by SSRS and released on Tuesday, found that 54 percent of likely voters surveyed favor a Democratic congressional candidate in their district.

CNN also reported the 13-point lead for Democrats represents a three-point increase from a similar poll conducted in September. In that survey, 52 percent of likely voters said they favored a Democrat and 42 percent said they favored a Republican.
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Pitbull said:
Another CNN survey? aren't they the same people who predicted a win for Hillary? :eek:
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rietrot said:
Geez a CNN survey. The lefties are BSing themselves again. Can't wait for all the tears.
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They have different polls with different methods, take this one for example.

Poll: Nine weeks out, a near even race

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton start the race to November 8 on essentially even ground, with Trump edging Clinton by a scant two points among likely voters, and the contest sparking sharp divisions along demographic lines in a new CNN/ORC Poll.
Trump tops Clinton 45% to 43% in the new survey, with Libertarian Gary Johnson standing at 7% among likely voters in this poll and the Green Party's Jill Stein at just 2%.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/06/...n-presidential-polls-election-2016/index.html

Of course the race finished up with Clinton 48, Trump 46 , i dont think you should delude yourselves into thinking that every poll is now fake news, any more than those that take every poll as gospel. Polls have their place amongst other indicators.
 
Pitbull said:
You seem to also be very deceitful. But I can see why you guys would be. I mean you are wrong, so instead of admitting it, you claim to be right and misinterpret exactly what he said. And you wonder why you are being called libtards :eek:
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Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings. You can whine as much as you want, doesn't change reality. :)

Pitbull said:
Wait, so you're 100% convinced it was a PR stunt? You were 100% guaranteed that there will be a protest? What if he didn't walk out, what would you claim then? The expense was paid, irrespective of him walking out or not, or there being a protest or not. Which again you libtards seem to be deceitful about.
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Yeah, totally not a PR stunt when he changed his itinerary last minute to go there, randomly orchestrated posting photos that were actually from 2014 over Facebook, Instagram and Twitter to show him there, and then immediately posted again after leaving, and after Trump said he told him to leave. And knowing players from the Colts have knelt in the preceding games. :sneaky:

Pitbull said:
You need to get on the Bus...

Anything not good happening in the US is Trumps fault. Everything good happening is because of things Obama did... Libtard mentality right there :D
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Which literally no one has said. Guess you're the dishonest one, eh?

Pitbull said:
Any case of tampering with evidence been made?
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Uhm, yes...? Have you read anything about this story?

https://lawandcrime.com/politics/le...w-kavanaugh-might-have-tampered-with-witness/
 
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konfab said:
Mandatory Reading:
Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture



https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/
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But since the survey question did not define political correctness for respondents, we cannot be sure what, exactly, the 80 percent of Americans who regard it as a problem have in mind.
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lol, makes this fairly meaningless. Given that things like 'disrespecting the flag/anthem', criticising Israel, criticising police brutality/malfeasance, or not blindly worshipping 'the troops' is not generally considered PC stuff, despite absolutely being PC, I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

konfab said:
OP-ed by The Donald Himself.
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Stacked to the brim with clear, demonstrable lies. As expected, I guess.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
lol, makes this fairly meaningless. Given that things like 'disrespecting the flag/anthem', criticising Israel, criticising police brutality/malfeasance, or not blindly worshipping 'the troops' is not generally considered PC stuff, despite absolutely being PC, I wouldn't put too much stock in it.
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Somebody needs to read up on the difference between political correctness and societal norms, you clearly have them ass backwards.
 
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