US Politics : Open Borders (a continuation)

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tetrasect said:
So you're one of those "I was beaten by my dad so why shouldn't I beat my kid?" types?
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Not at all. I just don't see why criminals (illegal immigrants) should be rewarded for their behavior by allowing their offspring to obtain very valuable citizenship when many hard-working and productive people can't.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Not at all. I just don't see why criminals (illegal immigrants) should be rewarded for their behavior by allowing their offspring to obtain very valuable citizenship when many hard-working and productive people can't.
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So you're saying your parents are criminals and illegal immigrants?
 
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tetrasect said:
You can't have it both ways.
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The fact that you can't differentiate between legal and illegal immigration is not my fault. There may be a case for birthright citizenship for legal immigrants - Trump's policy targets illegal immigrants (criminals).
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
The fact that you can't differentiate between legal and illegal immigration is not my fault. There may be a case for birthright citizenship for legal immigrants - Trump's policy targets illegal immigrants (criminals).
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So suddenly the constitution means nothing?

The 14th Amendment guarantees that “all persons born” in the United States “are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Maybe Biden should just overrule the 2nd Amendment by executive order?
 
tetrasect said:
So suddenly the constitution means nothing?

The 14th Amendment guarantees that “all persons born” in the United States “are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Maybe Biden should just overrule the 2nd Amendment by executive order?
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Except that the 14th amendment does nor apply to illegal aliens, so no it does not guarantee anything of the sort.
More accurately it has never been argued in court that it does extend to illegals.
The closest was United States v. Wong Kim Ark all the way back in 1898.

The Supreme Court of the United States affirmed in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), that the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees citizenship for nearly all individuals born in the United States, provided that their parents are foreign citizens, have permanent domicile status in the United States, and are engaging in business in the United States except performing in a diplomatic or official capacity of a foreign power.
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