US State Dpt Advisory on SA

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http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1008.html

There're some fascinating sections in this February 2007 report. Overall, it doesn't quite paint a peaceful picture of SA..

"SAFETY AND SECURITY: Travelers are encouraged to be vigilant and avoid any large gathering, particularly protests and demonstrations. The possibility of violence, including threats against American interests, should not be discounted, particularly in times of heightened world tension.

CRIME: Although the vast majority of visitors complete their travels in South Africa without incident, visitors should be aware that criminal activity, sometimes violent, occurs routinely. Notwithstanding government anti-crime efforts, violent crimes such as armed robbery, carjacking, mugging, "smash and grab" attacks on vehicles, and other incidents are regularly reported by visitors and resident Americans.

Crimes against property, such as carjacking, have often been accompanied by violent acts, including murder, when victims resist or are slow to respond to attackers’ demands. South Africa also has the highest incidence of reported rape in the world. Foreigners are not specifically targeted, but several have been the victims of rape. Victims of violent crime, especially rape, are strongly encouraged to seek immediate medical attention, including antiretroviral therapy against HIV/AIDS. Questions about how to receive such treatment should be directed to the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.

Criminal activity, such as assault, armed robbery, and theft is particularly high in areas surrounding many hotels and public transportation centers, especially in major cities. Theft of passports and other valuables is most likely to occur at airports, bus terminals, and train stations. A number of Americans have been mugged or violently attacked on commuter and metro trains, especially between Johannesburg and Pretoria. Several American travelers also reported theft of personal belongings after strangers whom they invited into their hotel drugged them. In at least one instance, the American died after being drugged and robbed in this manner.

There is a serious baggage pilferage problem at Johannesburg and Cape Town International airports, particularly travelers changing airlines and those flying on smaller airlines—passengers flying on major international carriers may not be affected to the same degree. Travelers are encouraged to secure their luggage with Transportation Security Administration (TSA) approved locks, use an airport plastic wrapping service, and avoid placing electronics, jewelry, cameras or other valuables in checked luggage. Make an inventory of items in checked baggage to aid in claims processing if theft does occur.

In the Western Cape, police resources have been strained by continuing gang conflicts and vigilante violence in the Cape Flats area of Cape Town. Travelers may wish to contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate before embarking on trips to these particular areas.

Armed robbery of cash-in-transit vehicles and personnel occur throughout South Africa and peak during December and January due to the increase in cash flow from commercial stores to banks. These attacks have also included incidents at major malls and in large grocery stores. Individuals should raise their level of situational awareness while in the vicinity of cash-in-transit vehicles and personnel and avoid areas where they are located to the maximum extent possible.

Credit card fraud, counterfeit U.S. currency, and various check-cashing scams are frequently reported. Do not accept "assistance" from anyone, or agree to assist others with ATM transactions. Travelers should try to avoid using ATMs after bank business hours or in remote locations. When giving your credit card to a store or restaurant employee for processing, do not let them take the card out of your sight. Visitors should also beware of telephone or email schemes, which attempt to win the confidence of an unsuspecting American who is persuaded either to provide privileged financial information or travel to South Africa to assist in a supposedly lucrative business venture.

TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ROAD CONDITIONS: While in a foreign country, U.S. citizens may encounter road conditions that differ significantly from those in the United States. The information below concerning South Africa is provided for general reference only, and may not be totally accurate in a particular location or circumstance...

Travelers should use caution at all times when driving, and especially avoid nighttime travel outside major cities. Road conditions are generally good in South Africa. However, excessive speed, poor lighting on rural roads, and insufficient regulatory control of vehicle maintenance and operator licensing have resulted in a high and rapidly increasing number of traffic fatalities. Drivers should also take care to avoid pedestrians crossing roads, which frequently occur on major highways.

‘Smash and grab’ robberies are common throughout South Africa, particularly in urban areas, at traffic lights, and on highway off-ramps. Drivers should be particularly careful of this problem and avoid carrying anything of value (e.g., briefcases, purses, cell phones, etc.) inside the car that could attract potential assailants.

SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES: Approximately one-quarter of the population of South Africa is infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Public awareness in the country as to how to protect against infection is increasing. However, travelers are advised to exercise appropriate precautions if engaging in sexual activity, or if they become exposed to a blood source other than that supplied by a hospital for transfusion purpose.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1008.html
 
I wish more tourists would read warnings like these. I was waiting for a customer to come out of the Balmoral hotel on the beachfront and the receptionist was suggesting to an American couple that they walk from there to the city centre. Needless to say I suggested they took a cab.
 
My further comment is that this is warning that was probably issued in response to the latest statistics released by SAPS. My mother has been issuing me with a similar warning about the dangers in South Africa for as long as I can remember
 
As much as I disagree with American policy etc.. just what facts in this article are made up?

You will find travel adversaries such as this about all countries. I'm pretty sure that one based on say, Scotland, would advise travelers to Edinburgh to avoid places such as Pilton and Sighthill. And for good reason.

The fact that someone states facts that are unpalatable does not mean that they are making them up to suit their own ends.

/apologies to the regular users for feeding the trolls.
 
From article:

The possibility of violence, including threats against American interests, should not be discounted, particularly in times of heightened world tension.
Can be expected in most third world countries against American interests

CRIME: Although the vast majority of visitors complete their travels in South Africa without incident, visitors should be aware that criminal activity, sometimes violent, occurs routinely.
Gee whiz , golly that could be any city or country in the world.

Several American travelers also reported theft of personal belongings after strangers whom they invited into their hotel drugged them. In at least one instance, the American died after being drugged and robbed in this manner.
Well if you take prostitutes or rent boys to your hotel, it is liable to happen

In the Western Cape, police resources have been strained by continuing gang conflicts and vigilante violence in the Cape Flats area of Cape Town. Travelers may wish to contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate before embarking on trips to these particular areas.
Of course the Cape Flats is also avoided by locals for the very same reason.

Credit card fraud, counterfeit U.S. currency, and various check-cashing scams are frequently reported. Do not accept "assistance" from anyone, or agree to assist others with ATM transactions.
You have to be pretty dumb to ask for help in any country with regards ATM's.

TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ROAD CONDITIONS: While in a foreign country, U.S. citizens may encounter road conditions that differ significantly from those in the United States.
Yes, they are narrower, with less lanes.

Travelers should use caution at all times when driving, and especially avoid nighttime travel outside major cities.
Best time to travel on the open road. Less @holes on the road.

Sies! :rolleyes:
 
I admire your attitude however I dont see things that way. I think deep down inside the majority of the population want the whites to either leave or suffer. I really dont blame them as it was their land first anyway. I just see it as reality. I wont even get started on the crime issue but one has to wonder why is the gvt doing nothing to stop crime? Maybe they want the population to live in fear. They are no different to the old nats. Tell me do you have kids here? If not would you want to?
 
I admire your attitude however I dont see things that way. I think deep down inside the majority of the population want the whites to either leave or suffer. I really dont blame them as it was their land first anyway. I just see it as reality. I wont even get started on the crime issue but one has to wonder why is the gvt doing nothing to stop crime? Maybe they want the population to live in fear. They are no different to the old nats. Tell me do you have kids here? If not would you want to?

Crime. That's an interesting factor. Do you think it's relative to our country only or the rest of the continent?
 
Well ive lived here a long time and I ain't dead yet.. nor have I been robbed before or anything in that nature.
 
Crime. That's an interesting factor. Do you think it's relative to our country only or the rest of the continent?

One of the major crimes listed is not only categorically higher in this country than any other - it was invented here: Smash & Grabs. This and ATM blasts are uniquely South African crimes. In any case, to state something is "relative to this or that" is by itself a gigantic cop out, as everything is relative to something else.
 
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