USA vs. SA broadband comparison

fdecker

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I just thought I would provide some comments about the US internet situation vs. South Africa. Sometimes cultural differences can be shocking :)

First of all there are several methods of High Speed connections. The most popular and best by far is a cable connection. For those who can't get a cable connection (only the most remote areas in the US) people settle for DSL since they at least have copper phone wire going to the house. The only people I know personally who do not have a high speed connection are those who basically have no need for the internet at all other than their family makes them tie on for email :) Most areas with large populations / high eduction / several universities have most everyone with a high speed connection. Some people also have satellite with slow upload but high download speeds and some are getting cell type wireless connections so they can travel anywhere with a laptop, but the majority are cable. Cable is also merging the cell phone internet connection for a smart PDA phone with the home internet so you can get that on the same service too. So the line between hard line cable and over the air signal is blurring. Basically, it can now be different methods of delivering the same service from the same company. You can pay a little extra if you want your internet to travel with you away from your home connection.

The internet is so prolific that you almost don't have to pay for it :) Wherever I go with my laptop, I find dozens of wireless routers in my list, some of which are always unprotected. While I don't encourage jumping on other people's internet connection, I have on occasion gone on to do a quick lookup or send an important email. In my neighborhood of average sized houses (2600 square feet or more), there are 10 other wireless routers in range.

Most of us are pretty much all cable / all digital at this point. For example, you can get high speed internet, VoIP phone, and digital high-def television with a couple of hundred channels all from one provider if you want. All this for between $100 - $200 per month (R750 - R1500). Its nice to have 1 cable coming into the house and everything run off of it. The only downside is that if someone digs where they aren't supposed to and cuts a cable, everything goes out. :) Also, in the age of VoIP phone, they require power for the phone and the router it runs through. The POTS line phone runs off the phone company's DC power system, so even if we have a hurricane and some people lose power with all the trees falling through the wires that aren't yet underground, the old style telephones almost never go out.

Cable in the US usually has 3 tiers of service, lite, regular and turbo. Lite is 1.5 Mbps down and 256 Kpbs up. Regular is 5 Mbps down / 384 Kbps up, and turbo is 8Mbps / 512 Kbps.

I have turbo and personally don't usually see much difference between regular and turbo. Sometimes the internet itself is slower than turbo so I'm paying for performance I'm not getting :) The big deal is for people downloading a lot of music or movies or who need that level of service for business.

Regular cable internet service (such as Road Runner) costs about $35 per month (R263). I'm not sure how that stacks up against personal income, but most American's earn above $30,000 (R225,000) if they are employed full time. Most people in my area have both husband and wife working and I would say the average income is $80,000 to $130,000 per year for a 2 income family (R600,000 - R975,000).

The big shocker as someone in the US looking at the pricing of SA broadband is that your ISP are charging by usage. Keep in mind that the internet in the US is UNLIMITED. In my house, we have a partly wired and partly wireless network of 5 desktops and laptops. Each person in the house has 1 computer. We are always connected and do a lot of surfing and downloading at random times. The kids subscribe to iTunes and are constantly downloading music for their iPods. So having to pay for how much you upload and download is just not competitive. For one thing, how can you possibly monitor how much you are downloading? And imagine trying to keep a teen from downloading too much. I understand that model comes from cell phone billing where they charge for air time, but the internet really needs to be unlimited, just like local phone usage is here in the US.

I work from home often and have to upload and download very large projects and also use remote desktop software to take control of several machines at the office. With the high speed connection, there isn't much difference operating software from my machine or running it on a remote client machine from home or a hot spot.

Back to the phone system. That also differs from SA. Normal POTS lines allow unlimited local calling and charge for long distance. VoIP phones charge for minutes, but all long distance is included in those minutes. Of course you can get unlimited VoIP also where you can call anywhere in the US, Mexico, or Canada and talk for as long as you want.

Well, that's my quick, non-scientific synopsis of the differences in being wired in the US and SA. It will be interesting to see how things change as SA grows and business competition brings down prices.
 
Yeah...Feel like pulling a Madonna and adopting a 21 year old (22 on Friday :D) South African?
 
He called all our mothers biatches and said we're going to hell... Or no wait we're living in broadband hell or something like that :P
 
For one thing, how can you possibly monitor how much you are downloading? And imagine trying to keep a teen from downloading too much.

Great attitude.... Got to love America: Unlimited food, unlimited oil, unlimited electric.... even unlimited internet.
 
wi-fi hotspots

You guys are too funny! :) Most of our hotspots are free. Any coffee shop or restaurant, book store, etc. that wants your business gives free high-speed wireless for free. I noticed in England though, that most places wanted you to sign up with some company for a per day fee to access them. A complete pain, not to mention having to spend money for access. How is it in SA? Are the hot spots free like here?

Fred
 
Best my dad can get in his area is satellite and at $55pm for 6-7gb at 512kbps its not much better than what we have here.
 
unlimited

Great attitude.... Got to love America: Unlimited food, unlimited oil, unlimited electric.... even unlimited internet.

Actually, I'll agree with your sarcasm on three of the points, unlimited food, unlimited oil, unlimited electricity. I think we are way too consumption based and have been used to having it good for too long. If the rest of the world used resources like we have been, I think a recent documentary said we would need 4 earths.

I think buffets are nice, but encourage people to eat like pigs. I am amazed at the number of obese people I see chowing down at an all you can eat. Not only that, but our portion size at pay for a plate restaurants are usually excessive. My wife and I often buy 1 meal and split it with maybe a side salad.

We have a lot of solar, wind and nuclear energy which are much more efficient, cheaper, mostly renewable, and better than burning coal. And we are going greener all the time as the culture changes. Most of us do a lot of recycling now and we have the different bins for different materials that I saw Germany using a decade ago.

But when it comes down to information, I think that should be "unlimited". Frankly, all communication, whether TV, phone, internet, cell, etc. should be a flat rate. I think all the complicated "plans" do nothing but pad the pockets of the providers and cause stress and waste time tracking it all for the consumer.

Fred
 
You guys are too funny! :) Most of our hotspots are free. Any coffee shop or restaurant, book store, etc. that wants your business gives free high-speed wireless for free. I noticed in England though, that most places wanted you to sign up with some company for a per day fee to access them. A complete pain, not to mention having to spend money for access. How is it in SA? Are the hot spots free like here?

Fred

nothing is free, and we dont even have broadband - we have some pathetic limited 3GB crap that is basically narrow band at best - online gaming with international players on Xbox..impossible - download movies....what a joke, cheaper to buy the DVD and it would take you forever and a day to download the 1.2gb..and oh yes, lets not forget again that stooopid effing 3GB cap.
we don't have decent broadband, we can't offer hosting, we can barely read email, at the moment its a effing joke what we have and what we pay for it.:mad::sick:
 
You guys are too funny! :) Most of our hotspots are free. Any coffee shop or restaurant, book store, etc. that wants your business gives free high-speed wireless for free. I noticed in England though, that most places wanted you to sign up with some company for a per day fee to access them. A complete pain, not to mention having to spend money for access. How is it in SA? Are the hot spots free like here?

Fred
There's always McDonalds. . .
 
Keep in mind that the internet in the US is UNLIMITED.

Yeah, while unlimited on paper, two people I work with had been disconnected. 1 without any warning, but he admitted that he was on about 250GB a month, and he would never be able to get an account with comcast again, and the other had a warning for abuse.

I am still fine tho, i guess that when you use excessive bandwidth, they then check what you are doing and if they see iTunes or Netflix or some legit they let you go.
 
Fiber and Unlimited

Yes, you are right about cutting edge tech. Cable is great because it is one wire for everything and has such a high bandwidth for information. Using it also frees up all of the radio frequencies that used to have to go through the air. Fiber probably will ultimately replace it. Personally, I don't think the internet backbone is as fast as the fiber is :) I don't know anyone yet on fiber since only the biggest cities or test locations are laying down fiber pipe yet. Still, 30mb!!! wow.

As for unlimited, I am in the telephony business. I do a lot of things linking computers to telephone systems and telephony devices, even modems. We also create tools for programmers to add those functions to programs easily and sell SIP accounts for VoIP.

Someone is always watching bandwidth somewhere. While for most usage, unlimited means unlimited, if you are using way more than they bargained for in their business plan, they will find a way to stop you. We have unlimited local calling on our POTS lines, but I've seen clients try to do unlimited conferencing on a home line using the Centrex services :) Basically, it would be like setting up a bunch of 3way calls. You can disconnect from the conference and leave it active even though you aren't on the call and your line is free to make another call. But where are those people talking? On the central switch for the provider. :) Sooner or later they find out you are making a business out of "chat lines" and have 500 customers at a time tying up their switch. People will test limits, won't they :)

So I get that at some point their have to be limits. At the same time, the US is usually pretty strict about truth in advertising, so they have to be careful about using the word unlimited if there is a cap.

Fred
 
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