UTD[esktop]: USB vs Ethernet cable

[jmn]

Does anybody know if the UT(D) supports SNMP? Kyocera does not mention anything about it for their access bridge.

 

[Next Thing]

Does anybody know if the UT(D) supports SNMP? Kyocera does not mention anything about it for their access bridge.

I had a look at the linux drivers a while back . It does not seem to have a complete TCP/IP style stack , Just an ethernet based protocol between the machine and the UTD, so no I do not think that you will find that it supports snmp

 

[ic]

Has anyone tried this yet???

The other day I was daydreaming whilst waiting for pages to load, and I had this idea - whilst my UTD is connected to the RedNIC on my SWE2 box (which manages the connection), I wondered whether the UTD would mind if I simultaneously attached it to my W2KP PC via USB to see if the iBurst SysTray app would show FER%, uplink/downling etc etc etc.

Unfortunately the UTD is currently at the other end of a 20m long ethernet cable where I get the best logical signal & also the only place where the external antenna actually works (since it is directional).

So, does anyone with a similar setup (SW or IPCop etc connection management and a Windoze box) want to give it a try...?

Disclaimer: You try this at your own risk - I will not be held liable for any explosions or damage caused to anything or anyone at any place or space or time...

 

[Grimsqueaker]

ic said at the beginning of the thread:

{b} i didn't want to plug the utd into my 8 port switch as i don't think that would work without a router, and if it did i didn't want other pc's connecting to the net without first going through the firewall s/w on my pc.

Even if I connect the modem through a switch, the connection is still set up on my PC and shared via ICS to other PCs on my network. Doesn't this mean that the other PCs are accessing the Internet through my PC and therefore through my firewall? I am running Sygate Personal firewall.

Thanks

 

[jmn]

So, does anyone with a similar setup (SW or IPCop etc connection management and a Windoze box) want to give it a try...?

Will try...

Disclaimer: You try this at your own risk - I will not be held liable for any explosions or damage caused to anything or anyone at any place or space or time...

 

[jmn]

USB terminal SW shows not connected and can't seem to connect again while ethernet is connected, so no stats...

 

[ic]

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Even if I connect the modem through a switch, the connection is still set up on my PC and shared via ICS to other PCs on my network. Doesn't this mean that the other PCs are accessing the Internet through my PC and therefore through my firewall? I am running Sygate Personal firewall.

Thanks

GS, yes I believe it does mean that other PCz are going through your PC to get to the outside world via ICS, with one big exception - none of those PCz must be setup with a PPPoE connection which would allow them to directly access the UTD and establish a connection on their own without going through your PC.

Now there is another potential danger for Windoze boxes connected to that same switch - I would say for PCz that by default understand PPPoE (i.e. XP boxes), in theory an attacker could send malformed UDP packets which would arrive at the switch and potentially/possibly be broadcast to all PCz on your network that can interpret the PPPoE packaging, now since they are malformed by design, they are designed to crash not so clever IP stacks, IOW all your Windoze PCz with their security flaws.

If that is possible (someone please comment) then I'm sure there are potentially many other possible exploits that can take down all the PCz connected via that switch.

USB terminal SW shows not connected and can't seem to connect again while ethernet is connected, so no stats...

Ok, just checking here, you had your connection established with UTD attached to Linux box via ethernet, and simultaneously attached to a Windoze box attached via USB cable? What OS on the Windoze box (W2KP, XPProf, XPHome, ...)?

Well there goes that theory out with the dishwater/bathwater/stormdrainwater...

I was convinced the problem was the iBurst software that does the connection bit on W2KP (detects USB as well as PPPoE UTD attachment).

Perhaps one day I will google whirlpool for a definitive answer, and perhaps the source code to the systray app...

 

[jmn]

Win XP on USB, PPPoE on Linux

 

[Makedon]

USB or Ethernet?Whats Better?

Hi There
I would like to ask you what is better to connect my modem with USB or Ethernet...does it makes difference in the speed?Coz i can only get 40kbps or about 6KB/s download speed and my modem is connected through Ethernet...
Please reply....

 

[slimothy]

only if your pc is slow or has too little ram for all the tasks will ethernet be faster because USB eats resources and ethernet doesn't. The truth is for mid to top range pcs it won't matter, the only difference is that you cant use the iburst terminal to fine tune your modem position for a low frame error rate and high signal

 

[guest2013-1]

ethernet :

its easy to install (literally plug in the cable and set your connection to connect) and you're able to run about 100 meters of the stuff, so your modem can literally be in the roof if you like, without any type of signal loss (talking about the transmission of data, not radio signal)

you will have endless trouble with USB, plus, anything more than 5 meters would give you trouble. You need to install special drivers.

USB is 1mb (but not true 1mb) and the ethernet cable runs at 10mb (so you know the cable is not the bottleneck)

I've also heard of folks getting better ping times with ethernet than usb, shaving off something like 40ms.

If you're capped, it could be the reason why you're getting such slow speeds, if your signal is k@k, it would explain why you get such low speeds, and depending on the tower and how far you're from it (even if you have all 5 lights on) is also a factor.

I've noticed that when you connect with the UTD through the ethernet cable, doesn't matter how sh1tty your signal showed on the UTD, it shoots up to 5 green lights immediatly (sometimes it will alternate, depending on your actual signal strenght)

If you have 5 lights without connecting the UTD at all (you're using the desktop monitor thing, so you could probably get a good idea of how strong your signal is) it will allow you to asses what is wrong.

As slimothy used to say, try and find your sweet spot, move the modem around and check for different results.

good luck, btw, get your adsl application ready, if they drop line rental (thanks rpm!) i'm definately getting adsl

 

[speedfreak]

Okay, now most member are probably going to hunt me down and shoot me,but:

I HAD to go to Ethernet. I simply just dont get signal on the ground. So my solution:

Take 1x Ethernet UTP cable and Rip out Pins 3,4 and 7,8 (Get a proper Power supply that can give you at least 3A 9/10V DC if your are going to run your CAT for more than 8m) and connect up 3,4 to - and 7,8 to +. (This is to be your power supply for your modem). PLEASE DO NOT BLAME ME IF YOU MAKE A BOO-BOO, BE VERY CAREFULL AND MAKE SURE YOUR CENTRE PIN IS +)

NOTE: One end of the pins are going to the power supply, and the other end you solder to a suitable power connector. DO NOT APPLY POWER TO THE NETWORK PORT!

Good.

Now, connect your UTP to a hub or your NIC, fire up the power and mount 1x modem ontop of your roof or TV antenna - Cable ties works lekker.

And there you go. On time superb connection.

(PLEASE MAKE SURE TO PROTECT YOUR MODEM FROM MOIST, RAIN AND DIRECT SUN!).

For the fundies out there, sorry. I was desperate to get a connection..........

 

[Darth Garth]

USB is 1mb (but not true 1mb) and the ethernet cable runs at 10mb (so you know the cable is not the bottleneck)

USB V2.0 runs at 480Mbps or 12Mbps
Ethernet cards and routers now generally runs at 100Mbps these days

 

[Darth Garth]

Ethernet is really the way to go as USB modems are all el cheapo crap usually depending on all sorts of crappy software making your PC slower and XP more unstable and fragile.

 

[jmn]

I HAD to go to Ethernet. I simply just dont get signal on the ground. So my solution...

I would have run a separate cable (eg ripcord) for the power, that's all...

 

[ScrnScrm]

go USB if you are mobile (like as in travel a lot with a notebook), and Ethnernet if its for home. Performance wise u will be hard pressed to tell the difference. Biggest selling point for ethernet for me is that its much easier to share the connection - I dont trust Windows Internet Connection sharing. Hold on. I dont trust Windows Period

 

[speedfreak]

Yeah, I agree on the seperate cable.

But: I didn't have spare and figured, what the hell. I only use 2 pairs on the UTP. Since it is already twisted there worn't be any interference from the power. Any case, it's running low V DC in any way.

(Not so sure the fire department will condone this) LOL

 

[scavern]

ethernet for me. also got a nifty d-link di-704up 4 port broadband router + usb print server. it's pretty cheap and it works great plus it's got a built in usb print server ! (btw. the cost of a stand alone usb print server costs more than this router !)

 

[shane101]

How much was that puppy scavern?

 

[PeaceMakr]

too much gear

Is it just me or do i need all the gear you guys talk about, routers and NIC, on my pc all i have is a ethernet connection(single) and usb, i have the UTD modem(thingy) and all that works fine in winxp, no go in linux...

HELP