UUnet Uncapped

Hellhound said:
1. Yes this is a legal service, it just routes you from the exchange to a different backbone.(as I understand it)

2. And as for the 512k users yes you still pay the R680 fee from telkom. UUnet is just a service provider and they have nothing to do with your telephone rental and bills.

A test account is just a "short term" account you get assigned to check out the service. Their product is running in KZN as a full product.

Regards
Hellhound a.k.a Cerberus
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Ok, please provide further enlightenment, bcos there are still a couple of exchange related things I'm fuzzy-wuzzy on here.
  • You need an existing ADSL line before you contact UUNET SA to go for this, yes?
  • When you contact UUNET & get a Test Account & Realm, UUNET requests that Techkomonpolists at your local exchange, yank your line's copper out of the ordinary DSLAM that feeds into Telkom's backbone, yes?
  • After yanking out the coppers, the Techkomonpolist then shoves them wires into UUNET's own DSLAM[s banked & renting space at the Telkom exchange], yes?
  • UUNET's DSLAMs are somehow connected to their own backbone, presumably they laid down fibreoptic cable to certain exchanges for test purposes, yes?
  • Now you are still paying Telkom for the monthly ADSL Rental, yes?
  • What happens to the normal analogue part of your ADSL line, i.e. can you make [analogue] telephone calls on your copper line when the wires are sitting in UUNET's DSLAMs?
  • If the answer to the previous question was NO, then why do you still need to pay Telkom for the "Telscum Residential Line: R85" (which in my ICASA submission I have said must be renamed to Telephone Number Rental)?
 
Guys, all what I can say, its running like a marvel. Speed ok, everything is fine.

The price by a reseller is 950 Rand per month + my ADSL line from Telkom 680 Rand.
This is still cheaper then my 4 subscriptions (12 GB) which I had before and I am now uncapped , etc. I am quite happy, if Telkom now decreases price and increases speed (what a nice dream *fg*), I became very happy....
 
I am now officially confused about this pricing.

Lewstherin in his post on the second page said it was R1200 (with 10 people sharing a realm+ 384k DSL) and now Celemasiko says that it's R950 + R680 =R1630 ( I presume that is without the 10 people sharing a realm and 512k DSL.)
 
Dominic Rooney said:
I am now officially confused about this pricing.

Lewstherin in his post on the second page said it was R1200 (with 10 people sharing a realm+ 384k DSL) and now Celemasiko says that it's R950 + R680 =R1630 ( I presume that is without the 10 people sharing a realm and 512k DSL.)
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You can only share the cost of the realm between 10 people, that is were sharing ends. After that you need your own ADSL line, your own telkom normal line and your own account with uunet.
 
Okay IC I'll answer them as you asked them:
i. Yes you need an existing ADSL line installed from Telkom
ii. No they do not Yank your copper wire out you get transfered from the exchange through their lines to the UUnet lines kind of like a VLan domain,That is the realm part so all you have to do is type in user name and password and poof your on their backbone
iii. no yanking of copper so nope that is all telkom
iv. UUnet uses telkom's DSLAM
v. Yes you pay Telkom to use their DSLAM
vi. Everything stays as it is
vii. Do I really need to answer this one?!?

Regards
Hellhound a.k.a Cerberus
 
I just heard from guy who signed a contract that the price mentioned from uunet is ex 14.95% vat (since when is vat 14.95%? interesting)

That is all ex vat pricetags.
 
Ok, thanks Hh, I now have some mental clarity about all this & I can definitely say that I could do without so much inbreeding with Telkom's infrastructure - IMO, where it is expensive.

As for VAT being 14.95% - nice one, SARS will fry anyone in hell that tries to withold the additional .95%

4 ADSL ISP accounts + ADSL rental per month == :eek: !!!
 
I think this offer should just be taken seriously by a group of people wanting broadband, say 4-10 people on a LAN or if you want to play MMORPG's like World of Warcraft. If you just want local gaming and average downloads then get the 3 gig accounts. I'd say safely you could get 9 gigs for just less than the total price of the UUnet Package. I say again this isn't the answer to anyone's prayers but it is another choice to those that want to download the world and small businesses that need the download and bandwidth at a relatively inexpensive price compared to say DataPro and Stormnet. Just my opinion nothing more :)

Regards
Hellhound a.k.a Cerberus
 
Dominic Rooney said:
I am now officially confused about this pricing.

Lewstherin in his post on the second page said it was R1200 (with 10 people sharing a realm+ 384k DSL) and now Celemasiko says that it's R950 + R680 =R1630 ( I presume that is without the 10 people sharing a realm and 512k DSL.)
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Thats correct!!!

Sorry, I forgot 950 Rand is excluding VAT, including VAT = 1083 Rand. I am planning to share with 4 other people, so price will come down for me.

btw CS works excellent!!! emule is downloading great, an upload of approx: 520 MB went fine. Anymore questions?
 
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No nothing happens to your physical line. You connect to the Telkom DSLAM which connects you to the nationwide ATM network (I'm trying to remember all of this again). At this stage you make a decision regarding ISP's (All of whom run on the ATM network).

Picture it like a VLAN'ed switch, same physical network but different logical network.
 
I think it probably works like this:

a. The Telkom ADSL line connects the customer's ADSL modem to the Telkom DSLAM
b. The Telkom DSLAM connects to the Telkom ATM backbone
c. The traffic traverses the ATM backbone to the Telkom BRAS
d. UUNET connects their backbone to the Telkom BRAS (I think there's 2)
e. Based on the realm (a Radius authentication term) used to log in, the BRAS either routes the traffic to the UUNET backbone if its a UUNET realm, otherwise its routed over the SAIX backbone (incl port prioritisation and capping).
 
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can ppl like dominic who just cant read... please either private message the obvious people who posted what ever he just cant understand.... this is a hugely interesting thread... but omg what a pain to read through all the crap postings by ppl who are either too lazy to read from post #1 or just dont read well ?

You far more likely to get a straight and detailed answer if you pm someone in the know, rather than clutter a popular thread with crap.

I'd pm, dominic, but there are others and potentially more lurking ;)
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I think a key point to the this product, is that if we can make enough noise to UUNET's product team, that they need to launch a 386k account aswell, it will just help it appeal to so many more people.
 
silversurfer said:
I think a key point to the this product, is that if we can make enough noise to UUNET's product team, that they need to launch a 386k account aswell, it will just help it appeal to so many more people.
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I couldnt agree more...I have already had my request for a 384K uncapped account forwarded into UUNet. I recommend anyone who wants to see it happen call Ryan at UUNet and pester him further...the more individuals that ask for it, the more they will realise there's a market for the product.
 
Lo guys

How many simultaneous connections to 1 account can there be on this uunet service?

On the telkom prolog thingy it says "2 concurrent sessions" - does that mean 2 people from different locations can connect using the same account (provided they both have adsl lines), and still pay the R250 for the account - which they both use. (you would end up reaching your cap much quicker though)

but...

If my above statement is correct - and say uunet allows 2 connections/sessions per account - you and a friend could split the R580 and the R220 and pay R400 each. But if you get 10 people for the realm - you could end up paying R300 each for an uncapped/unshaped account.
 
nope uunet made sure of that.

one account is limited to 512k and if you connect 2 users to it, that would split the 512k among the 2 users.

Also, remember this is a wholesale product and not open to public to buy realms.

Public can only buy ISP accounts on top of the realms from participating "ISP account resellers"
 
allrighty, this looks good, so in my complex i plan on sharing this with the other guys there , so correct me if i'm wrong.

UUNET UnCap Acc+ Realm = R889.20 ( or R950) from a reseller
DSL 512 = R680
Telkom line rental=R85

Which equals R1715 a month, am i right?

Now i'm just gonna setup a linux box as a gateway and run a wireless network throughout the complex, sounds good to me?
 
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