VAT at 16%?

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How about spending less? Or is that to out of the box thinking?

JOHANNESBURG – An increase in the standard value-added tax (VAT) rate of 14% by one or two percentage points could reduce the pressure on the fiscus and would bring South Africa more in line with a number of international jurisdictions around the world.

However, it will be an extremely unpopular move with unions and other political groups, who argue that it will be to the detriment of the poor.

The Tax Review Committee, headed by Judge Dennis Davis, is currently considering potential amendments to the VAT system, with a specific focus on efficiency and equity.

Potential ways of increasing fiscal revenue have been a topic of discussion for some time. The minister of finance is under pressure to reduce the budget deficit amidst heightened scrutiny from ratings agencies. The budget deficit is projected to be 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) in the 2014/15 fiscal year.

A higher rate?

Tax experts agree that it is premature to comment on the likelihood of an increase in the standard VAT rate of 14%; however there are a number of things that the Tax Review Committee will likely take into account.

Andrew Wellsted, director at Norton Rose Fulbright, says that an increase in the VAT rate makes sense, considering the small income tax base.

There is very little room to manoeuver with respect to the group of taxpayers, since they are basically stretched to the limit, given the percentage of the total tax receipt that they are paying.

Wellsted says objectively that, given the pressure on the fiscus, an increase in the VAT rate would appear to be a sensible move and a much more equitable move from a broad-based perspective.

He says it will also bring South Africa more in line with international trends – the local VAT rate is lagging slightly behind comparative jurisdictions. But while the numbers might point to a higher VAT rate as a potential solution, the issue is all but a simple one.

Wellsted says that it is a political issue. Increasing the VAT rate will be seen as an inequitable move, given the disparity in wealth in the country. He says that the Davis Committee may well recommend an increase in the rate, but whether it will actually be implemented is another question. It remains a controversial issue.

If the committee does recommend an increase, he expects that it would rise to around 16%.

Gerhard Badenhorst, executive at ENSafrica, says that an increase in the VAT rate of just one percentage point, would translate into additional income of around R15bn or R16bn for the fiscus [Around R899bn of tax revenues will be collected in the 2013/14 budget year].

Badenhorst says that this is a substantial amount of money and would require virtually no systems changes.

But while an increase in the VAT rate is one of the ‘easy’ ways to generate additional income, it will have implications, for example, with regards to the cash flow of businesses.

Badenhorst explains that the vast majority of businesses account for VAT on an invoice or accruals basis. If it sells items on credit, it has to pay over VAT to the South African Revenue Service (Sars), regardless of whether it has received payment from debtors.

An increase in the VAT rate would mean that these businesses would have to find additional sources to fund the VAT payment to Sars until such time as its debtors settle their accounts, he says.

Any potential increase would also have an impact on the poor. While public transport and residential rental accommodation are exempt items, and most basic foodstuffs are zero-rated, other items like meat, is subject to VAT at the standard rate.

Badenhorst says that, in his view, any potential increase in the VAT rate has to be considered together with a reduction in personal income tax, in such a way that relief is provided for lower-income groups.

Continue reading: http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-tax/vat-at-16
 
Why dont they just raise the income tax level for all the middle class people? Its worked so well for them in the past.

/sarcasm

Or, raise VAT to 20% while raising the income tax threshold to R180k.
 
How about reducing government expenditure for proper out of the box thinking? Not just wasteful expenditure, but expenditure itself. There's no need for an economy to be so reliant on government revenue. It should be dependent on private sector revenue and PPP.

The proposed suggestion above is part and parcel of continued problematic governance issues...
 
Raise it to 40%... so the e-tolls can be paid by all for once and for all.


Better yet.. why don't government take our salaries and just give us all food parcels...

</sarcasm>
 
How about reducing government expenditure for proper out of the box thinking? Not just wasteful expenditure, but expenditure itself. There's no need for an economy to be so reliant on government revenue. It should be dependent on private sector revenue and PPP.

The proposed suggestion above is part and parcel of continued problematic governance issues...

+1

Start with Cutting everybody's salary in the government that exceeds 1 million. Cap it. Nobody Earns more.
No more car allowances
No more credit cards
No more holidays
No more company cell phones
No more living allowances.
They can have a municipal house at the value of R800 000 or buy their own house if it is not larney enough.
 
+1

Start with Cutting everybody's salary in the government that exceeds 1 million. Cap it. Nobody Earns more.
No more car allowances
No more credit cards
No more holidays
No more company cell phones
No more living allowances.
They can have a municipal house at the value of R800 000 or buy their own house if it is not larney enough.

If you want to be so racist you must get out of the new South Africa.

Sarcasm warning.
 
+1

Start with Cutting everybody's salary in the government that exceeds 1 million. Cap it. Nobody Earns more.
No more car allowances
No more credit cards
No more holidays
No more company cell phones
No more living allowances.
They can have a municipal house at the value of R800 000 or buy their own house if it is not larney enough.

While your motive is creditworthy, your proposed solution would have a very minor economic impact at the end of the day. I'm not referring to excess or wasteful expenditure, but a substantive reduction in overall government expenditure and an incentivisation mechanism with which to encourage spending by the private sector in the correct areas, as government should be doing.

Governments the world-over have over the last hundred or so years done nothing but attempt to increase their own relevance and size, and in doing so have created the majority of the world's problems. Larger governments focussed on taking from Peter to pay Paul create no wealth at all. They diminish it. Moving more and more money into inefficient public sector spending projects is one of the greatest wealth diluters we've been conned into thinking is somehow appropriate, or even good. It's not. Government does not need to be bigger in order for an economy to thrive. It does not, or at least should not require additional revenue in order to resolve economic issues created by poor governance in the first place.

This separation of responsibility by citizens via proxy has bred a lazy citizenship, and a grossly artificial economy, the world-over...
 
We will most probably end up with something similar to some EU countries where the VAT on basics will be low while the VAT on 'luxury' items like TV's computers and the like will be high i.e. 17 to 20%.
 
We will most probably end up with something similar to some EU countries where the VAT on basics will be low while the VAT on 'luxury' items like TV's computers and the like will be high i.e. 17 to 20%.

yip.. just more tax for the middle class and higher ...
 
While your motive is creditworthy, your proposed solution would have a very minor economic impact at the end of the day. I'm not referring to excess or wasteful expenditure, but a substantive reduction in overall government expenditure and an incentivisation mechanism with which to encourage spending by the private sector in the correct areas, as government should be doing.

Governments the world-over have over the last hundred or so years done nothing but attempt to increase their own relevance and size, and in doing so have created the majority of the world's problems. Larger governments focussed on taking from Peter to pay Paul create no wealth at all. They diminish it. Moving more and more money into inefficient public sector spending projects is one of the greatest wealth diluters we've been conned into thinking is somehow appropriate, or even good. It's not. Government does not need to be bigger in order for an economy to thrive. It does not, or at least should not require additional revenue in order to resolve economic issues created by poor governance in the first place.

This separation of responsibility by citizens via proxy has bred a lazy citizenship, and a grossly artificial economy, the world-over...
I understand. Thank you.
 
TBH I rather have VAT raised to 20% and income tax dropped by 20% - you will find that this will generate more income for the fiscus and also targets the large "unemployed" non-tax-paying group. Doesn't however fix the issue that the government has absolute no idea how to manage the tax-revenue and budget.
 
+1

Start with Cutting everybody's salary in the government that exceeds 1 million. Cap it. Nobody Earns more.
No more car allowances
No more credit cards
No more holidays
No more company cell phones
No more living allowances.
They can have a municipal house at the value of R800 000 or buy their own house if it is not larney enough.

Then they would actually have to be civil servants.
 
Government need to widen the tax net through organic economic growth. This welfare spending nonsense is short-term horseschit...
 
Government need to widen the tax net through organic economic growth. This welfare spending nonsense is short-term horseschit...

Exactly.

Need more jobs, to increase the tax paying base. Instead of dividing up the current pie differently.
 
We will most probably end up with something similar to some EU countries where the VAT on basics will be low while the VAT on 'luxury' items like TV's computers and the like will be high i.e. 17 to 20%.

The VAT rate here in Ireland is 23%.

Certain things have lower VAT rates (e.g. services at 13.5%), but most things are at the full 23. It's a sunofabish!
 
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