Vinyl making a comeback?

The writing is on the wall for music stores in South Africa. The UK doesn't have any big music retailers left after HMV shut down and no doubt the same thing is going to happen here. It's only a matter of time before Musica, Look & Listen, etc all shut down. The only music shops that are still thriving in the UK are the small independent music stores, and this is probably eventually also going to be the case here in SA.
 
I love vinyl for a few reasons. Nostalgia.I grew up listening to my dads records. A vinyl has a distinct sound, touch and smell to it. That vinyl collection was my inspiration to to take up music.

I disagree with you that cd is better than vinyl. You are comparing two very different types of recordings.Alot of artists and music fans prefer analog to digital recordings. A didital recording captures a soundwave differently, and never captures a full sound wave. Im not going to get technical but both are very different. In countries like USA, vinyl is still very popular. Almost every band sells vinyl for their fans.You can even buy a slipknot album on vinyl.

I have a massive old gramaphone, that works with valves. It has a beautiful tone to it. I love cd's as well, but vinyl still has a place in the music industry.

Don't be fooled by modern vinyl. Most modern vinyl recordings are produced digitally before being pressed to disc.
 
Don't be fooled by modern vinyl. Most modern vinyl recordings are produced digitally before being pressed to disc.

Exactly. To get the superior sound quality of analogue every step in the production process has to be analogue. Making a vinyl press from a digital recording is kind of like making a CD from an MP3 file and expecting the CD to somehow magically put back all the frequencies that were removed when the MP3 was compressed. The format is only as good as its source.
 
Exactly. To get the superior sound quality of analogue every step in the production process has to be analogue. Making a vinyl press from a digital recording is kind of like making a CD from an MP3 file and expecting the CD to somehow magically put back all the frequencies that were removed when the MP3 was compressed. The format is only as good as its source.

It doesn't matter if the material was recorded on analogue or digital equipment, it only matters how it is mixed and mastered so yes you can put a digital recording on vinyl. It's nothing like making a "CD" from MP3.
Some times when the same material gets mastered, it can even be mastered by a separate mastering engineer that specifically works with vinyl and does it differently than material mastered for CD.
 
It doesn't matter if the material was recorded on analogue or digital equipment, it only matters how it is mixed and mastered so yes you can put a digital recording on vinyl. It's nothing like making a "CD" from MP3.
Some times when the same material gets mastered, it can even be mastered by a separate mastering engineer that specifically works with vinyl and does it differently than material mastered for CD.

It's a pity you can't read. I didn't say you couldn't put a digital recording on vinyl. I said you cannot put a digital recording on vinyl and expect it to sound as good as an analogue recording.

You cannot convert a digital recording to something that sounds like an analogue recording. You can put a digital recording on to an analogue format media like vinyl, but it will never ever sound like a recording that was recorded in analogue. An analogue recording has a completely different sound profile to a digital recording. You can only capture that sound profile at the point of recording the sound.
 
It's a pity you can't read. I didn't say you couldn't put a digital recording on vinyl. I said you cannot put a digital recording on vinyl and expect it to sound as good as an analogue recording.

You cannot convert a digital recording to something that sounds like an analogue recording. You can put a digital recording on to an analogue format media like vinyl, but it will never ever sound like a recording that was recorded in analogue. An analogue recording has a completely different sound profile to a digital recording. You can only capture that sound profile at the point of recording the sound.

It kinda sounds like you haven't done many recordings yourself, mixed or mastered any music?
It sure sounds like you don't know how powerful music software has become or what software is out there.

Google Steven Slate VTM and VCC.
Try some AB tests to hear if you can tell the difference between software and hardware and then we'll talk.
Waves also has their own NLS plugin.

Yes you cannot simply "convert" n digital recording to an analogue sounding recording but you sure as hell can mix and master it with today's software to make it sound like it was recorded on analogue equipment.
If this wasn't true, then pro producers and engineers wouldn't use their consoles less and instead mix in the box with these plugins.

The thing is, many big artists still record through Neve, SSL, etc consoles and through vintage analogue gear (mic preamps, compressors, EQs, etc) and even onto magnetic tape and some don't, but when was the last time you heard the difference and knew when it was recorded through analogue equipment or digital equipment?
 
Vinyl is a bit like making green tea with a proper teapot and loose leaf and little cups and candles and chanting woogaminchwerabiscuit mantras - the process is cool, but that's about it.
 
Vinyl is a bit like making green tea with a proper teapot and loose leaf and little cups and candles and chanting woogaminchwerabiscuit mantras - the process is cool, but that's about it.

Exactly. If you like the tea-ceremony and nostalgia aspects, great. But anyone who claims vinyls sounds better or are a better/more accurate representation of sound are delusion
 
Exactly. If you like the tea-ceremony and nostalgia aspects, great. But anyone who claims vinyls sounds better or are a better/more accurate representation of sound are delusion

I agree that the differences are now beyond human hearing but analogue will always capture more than digital, by the very nature of the products.
 
I agree that the differences are now beyond human hearing but analogue will always capture more than digital, by the very nature of the products.
Capturing (recording) ≠ playback. Has nothing to do with vinyl as an audio source.
 
Capturing (recording) ≠ playback. Has nothing to do with vinyl as an audio source.
+1

Download something like audacity, and just look at the noise between the tracks when it's supposed to be silent...
 
I agree that the differences are now beyond human hearing but analogue will always capture more than digital, by the very nature of the products.

:erm:... Vinyl these day's is recorded digitally - then pressed. To enjoy true analogue audio, you need to listen to the source on it's original recorded quater-inch or quad tape.

And no, digital these days can catch a whole lot more information than analogue tape. Remember analogue recording still had bandwidth limitations, a lot more than current uncompressed digitial. Back in the day analogue bandwidth was a real problem.
People who don't grasp this always think analogue is better.
Ignorance is bliss.
 
:erm:... Vinyl these day's is recorded digitally - then pressed. To enjoy true analogue audio, you need to listen to the source on it's original recorded quater-inch or quad tape.

And no, digital these days can catch a whole lot more information than analogue tape. Remember analogue recording still had bandwidth limitations, a lot more than current uncompressed digitial. Back in the day analogue bandwidth was a real problem.
People who don't grasp this always think analogue is better.
Ignorance is bliss.

Not all vinyl goes through a digital process.

They usually make a point of stating this on the vinyl.
 
I doubt whether anything is recorded via analogue these days...

Perhaps look at what Third Man Records are doing

and heres a local band doing albums without any digital assistance

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