Vlok to be prosecuted

Personally I think ol' Eugene de Kock's ass is SO sore that he just wants some rest and someone else to take over from him. :sick:
 
xtermin8or said:
de Kock still spends more time out of jail than in
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Where he? In hospital with one of the shakey Shaik's or having a braai with Tony?
I don't think Shabir has spent a single day in a regular prison cell to date.
 
xtermin8or said:
They were a banned organisation operating underground, do you think they were going to issue public press statements

Most of the necklacing came from basic mob mentality, we both know that's how they happened.

As for the bombings etc. ( the few that there were )

The ANC took a decision to take up the armed struggle ( once again as a collective ) if you have to hold one person accountable, that would have to be Nelson Mandela, and only because he was the most outspoken about the armed struggle - he only done what the ANC told him to do - even when he was in prison and started talking to the Nats he went to great lengths to get consensus from the ANC before he said or committed himself to anything.

You see it might be difficult for you to understand the collective leadership nature of the ANC - but that is how it works -
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I don't think you understand the Communist structure. It was very centralised - that was the whole point. A small elite bunch making decisions for every homogenous entity in the collective. If anything happened, usually one leader gave the order. .... Oh and let's not downplay the bombs - NO there were not just a few. Many were targeted at civilians. Many were killed and maimed. We've all forgotten how brutal the campaign was.
 
What communist structure, the ANC was not and is not a communist structure, that is why there were a whole number of different parties in the struggle to the very Africanist PAC to the Communists of the SACP to the rather more central position of the ANC and UDF

The ANC was at the time controlled largely from the branches up, that changed once they took power, yes, and there are efforts ( which might be cosmetic ) to move back to the branches having the most power in the ANC
 
xtermin8or said:
The NPA intends looking at prosecuting those who were refused amnesty - there are more than 7 000 people on this list - people on both sides of the struggle - more could be added as more evidence comes to light through these prosecutions
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'FW de Klerk has a lot to answer for'
July 18 2007 at 12:20PM
By Sapa & Murray Williams

About 22 000 ANC members who were involved in acts of violence had been released as part of negotiations before the TRC was set up.

"Following the TRC process, 7 000 people, mainly from the side of the former NP government, did not receive amnesty. If the current government intends to prosecute everyone who did not receive amnesty … South Africa will be busy with these kind of court cases for the next 20 years," he said.
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The courts already can't keep up (neither the prisons) now we are going to prosecute 7000 people (mostly from the side of the NP government, contrary to your statement: both sides.)

20 years? Why can't the past remain in the past and we all move to a better future?
 
What I don't understand is the way freedom fighters emerged agains a white oppressor, but they all remain silent against Mugabe. It seems only religious leaders and the opposition in that country are willing to stand up and be counted. Elsewhere... silence.
 
groundnut said:
What I don't understand is the way freedom fighters emerged agains a white oppressor, but they all remain silent against Mugabe. It seems only religious leaders and the opposition in that country are willing to stand up and be counted. Elsewhere... silence.
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Simple really: 'they' agree with [-]Mugabe[/-] mugabe.

Saw the photos on sabc news re: the bishop. Cannot believe the sabc showed those! (and as someone else commented: shows the sympathy vote.)
 
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