Vodacom "Backhaul" increase?

[VC-1]

I wonder when Vodacom will be increasing their "Backhaul" in order to improve data speeds? V3G before I forget to thank you for the kind assistance to keep the wheels oiled. Thank you Vodacom.

 

[vodacom3g]

I wonder when Vodacom will be increasing their "Backhaul" in order to improve data speeds? V3G before I forget to thank you for the kind assistance to keep the wheels oiled. Thank you Vodacom.

The short answer is when there is no more transmission backlogs.

The longer answer is that Vodacom upgrades it back-haul network faster than Telkom can supply links. We always seem to be a few thousand links ahead of Telkom's ability to deliver.

So new links go in daily, but the network grows as quickly and every now and then we do silly things like jumping from 1.8 to 3.6 to 7.2! Have to feel sorry for Telkom, I guess.

 

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The short answer is when their is no more transmission backlogs.

The longer answer is that Vodacom upgrades it back-haul network faster than Telkom can supply links. We always seem to be a few thousand links ahead of Telkom's ability to deliver.

So new links go in daily, but the network grows as quickly and every now and then we do silly things like jumping from 1.8 to 3.6 to 7.2! Have to feel sorry for Telkom, I guess.

no, how could you say that?

I would have written something like - beat the buggers over the head with an anvil or two until they get their act together - after all Vodacom is probably Telkodemonopolies' single largest customer & paying Telkodemonopolies obscene amounts of money in rental fees every month, followed closely by MTN.

 

[vodacom3g]

no, how could you say that?

I would have written something like - beat the buggers over the head with an anvil or two until they get their act together - after all Vodacom is probably Telkodemonopolies' single largest customer & paying Telkodemonopolies obscene amounts of money in rental fees every month, followed closely by MTN.

Was just checking if you're reading all the threads!

Look, I'm no Telkom-fan, but (however they got into the situation they're in), it must be tough to have a backlog of a cr@pload of links and then we call up and say something like; 'We just turned on 3.6, was a software upgrade, please double that order!'

You've got no idea (well maybe you do) how 'obscene' the monthly Telkom bill is!

 

[ic]

Was just checking if you're reading all the threads!

Look, I'm no Telkom-fan, but (however they got into the situation they're in), it must be tough to have a backlog of a cr@pload of links and then we call up and say something like; 'We just turned on 3.6, was a software upgrade, please double that order!'

Somehow I doubt that Telkodemonopolies' execs lose sleep over backlogs of links, I suspect they do lose sleep over Vodacom and MTN laying their own fibre optic links, but who knows what goes on in the minds of Telkodemonopolies' execs and employees - they're mostly all brainwashed into thinking Telkodemonopolies is some sort of deity...

You've got no idea (well maybe you do) how 'obscene' the monthly Telkom bill is!

There was an article over the weekend:

In 2004, reports of Telkom's telecommunications pricing structure were mostly negative due to the high price of communications.

Two megabits of bandwidth, for example, was costing R250 000 per month, which Mr Hayward described as "absolutely exorbitant".

"In 2005, the same product would cost you R200 000 per month, which is high but still lower than the previous year. In 2006, the price was significantly dropped to R135 for the same amount of bandwidth and in 2007, we further dropped the price to R105 000.

"This year the price will be R88 000. Now that is a significant change in price over a period of four years," Mr Hayward said.

 

[VC-1]

Thanks V3G for the info but I was actually after why when you are on the OPT IN 3.6 speed we always see speeds of 1.8 and less on a constant basis. My expectation is that I would see between 1.8 and 3.6 on the OPT IN 3.6. I have kept a spreadsheet record of date and time versus speeds up and down and the average is never more than 1.4 Mbps download over 30 days.
Just wondering why I use a Poynting ant 5Db gain (400M from Tower) on a E272 modem set to 3G only.
V3G thanks in advance for your reply.

 

[ic]

Depends on available backhaul for all users in an area, and don't forget that it also depends where you're downloading from on the Internet and the speed of the various links that aren't part of Vodacom's network.

 

[vodacom3g]

Thanks V3G for the info but I was actually after why when you are on the OPT IN 3.6 speed we always see speeds of 1.8 and less on a constant basis. My expectation is that I would see between 1.8 and 3.6 on the OPT IN 3.6. I have kept a spreadsheet record of date and time versus speeds up and down and the average is never more than 1.4 Mbps download over 30 days.
Just wondering why I use a Poynting ant 5Db gain (400M from Tower) on a E272 modem set to 3G only.
V3G thanks in advance for your reply.

It seems that the backhaul constraints in your area is limiting your throughput to 1.4Mb/s.

Was this measured on speed.vodacom.co.za?

 

[VC-1]

V3G your asked:
"It seems that the backhaul constraints in your area is limiting your throughput to 1.4Mb/s. Was this measured on speed.vodacom.co.za?"

Yes all speed tests done on Speed.vodacom.co.za.

 

[ic]

@v3g, maybe another instance of that VAS profile issue that another forumite reported - tests over a month could otherwise reasonably be expected to peak if done at different times and throughout the days of the month...

 

[vodacom3g]

V3G your asked:
"It seems that the backhaul constraints in your area is limiting your throughput to 1.4Mb/s. Was this measured on speed.vodacom.co.za?"

Yes all speed tests done on Speed.vodacom.co.za.

Can you do a number of tests, say every few hours and try and get a few very late and early tests in and post the results?

 

[VC-1]

V3G tried to load the Access Report sheet but this website seems to reformat it:-

Date Time Day Download kbps Download Transfer Rate KB/s Upload kbps Upload Transfer Rate KB/s Ping ms
2007/07/06 12:19 Sun 1,587 198.4 1,086 135.8
2008/06/14 14:54 Sat 1,350 168.8 726 90.8
2008/06/15 10:20 Sun 952 119.0 320 40.0
2008/06/17 07:35 Tues 1,488 186.0 1,089 136.1
2008/06/17 10:36 Tues 1,506 188.6 1,094 136.8
2008/06/18 12:22 Wed 1,664 208.0 1,101 137.6
2008/06/18 13:58 Wed 1,919 239.9 1,092 136.5
2008/06/18 15:35 Wed 1,716 214.5 1,151 143.9
2008/06/18 16:20 Wed 903 112.9 177 22.1
2008/06/18 19:13 Wed 1,750 218.8 1,053 131.6
2008/06/19 07:21 Thurs 1,916 239.5 1,159 144.9
2008/06/19 11:51 Thurs 1,576 197.0 1,118 139.8
2008/06/19 15:21 Thurs 1,378 172.3 987 123.4 182
2008/06/20 07:39 Fri 1,370 171.3 973 121.6 212
2008/06/20 11:59 Fri 1,804 225.5 653 81.6 103
2008/06/20 12:03 Fri 1,809 226.1 1,123 140.4
2008/06/21 11:12 Sat 1,135 141.8 523 65.4 175
2008/06/21 15:40 Sat 1,705 213.1 1,076 134.5 198
2008/06/22 10:06 Sun 1,564 195.5 1,065 133.1 109
2008/06/23 13:30 Mon 1,606 200.7 1,063 132.8 106
2008/06/23 19:45 Mon 441 55.1 465 58.1 254
2008/06/24 07:23 Tues 1,327 165.8 946 118.2 232
2008/06/24 12:17 Tues 1,495 186.8 1,074 134.2 213
2008/06/24 12:19 Tues 1,613 201.6 1,158 144.8
2008/06/25 08:04 Wed 1,640 205.0 1,086 135.7 151
2008/06/27 13:14 Fri 810 101.2 909 113.6 141
2008/06/27 19:23 Fri 1,749 218.6 1,078 134.7 142
2008/06/27 19:25 Fri 1,899 237.4 1,149 143.6
2008/06/28 09:10 Sat 1,205 150.6 398 49.8
2008/06/29 11:33 Sun 1,806 225.8 1,162 145.3
2008/07/01 08:40 Tues 1,659 207.4 1,120 140.0
2008/07/02 07:55 Wed 1,852 231.5 1,127 140.9
2008/07/03 15:03 Thur 1,787 223.4 1,140 142.5
2008/07/04 11:38 Fri 1,727 215.9 1,134 141.8
2008/07/05 17:03 Sat 1,539 192.4 1,101 137.6
2008/07/07 09:10 Mon 1,729 216.1 1,132 141.5
2008/07/09 11:14 Wed 1,399 174.9 1,122 140.3
2008/07/14 18:22 Mon 1,487 185.9 1,153 144.1
Avg Download kbps Avg Download Transfer Rate KB/s Avg Upload kbps Avg Upload Transfer Rate KB/s Avg Ping ms
1,523 190.3 976 122.0 171
Data Speed Units: kbps or kb/s = Kilo bits per second ~ KB/s = Kilo Bytes per second
Reference Test Sites Used:
(1) Http://speed.vodacom.co.za/speedtest [# These have no "Ping ms" readings]
(2) Http://www.speedtest.net ~ On ISP Vodacom [# These are with "Ping ms" readings]

 

[vodacom3g]

Won't you PM me all your details as per my sig?