Vodacom breaks 500Mbps on 4G+ network

Do a app as I have suggested to enable users of all LTE enabled devices to use voice over LTE and Wifi. This could potentially take loads off the 2G/3G networks freeing up spectrum on those older networks, creating potential for more spectrum to be farmed and used on LTE network side surely? It is all good stating that the operators needs new spectrum, and of course that is true and urgent.....but face facts.....you are dealing with the South African government and their agencies. It is like waiting for the cows to come home. Be proactive and get people to move over to LTE devices, and make it possible for people to make use of voice calls over LTE by hook or by crook. Be aggressive in those strategies. Instead of begging for more new spectrum.....be proactive and create a solution.
 
Ockie said:
Do a app as I have suggested to enable users of all LTE enabled devices to use voice over LTE and Wifi. This could potentially take loads off the 2G/3G networks freeing up spectrum on those older networks, creating potential for more spectrum to be farmed and used on LTE network side surely? It is all good stating that the operators needs new spectrum, and of course that is true and urgent.....but face facts.....you are dealing with the South African government and their agencies. It is like waiting for the cows to come home. Be proactive and get people to move over to LTE devices, and make it possible for people to make use of voice calls over LTE by hook or by crook. Be aggressive in those strategies. Instead of begging for more new spectrum.....be proactive and create a solution.
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In the pipeline.
 
Johnatan56 said:
/20 years later
Any estimated release date or still in the pipeline?

Same thing as your WiFi calling, "first" with nothing happening.
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Wi-Fi calling now on S6, S7 and (soon) S8 and whole range of iPhones.

This is a function of the handset manufacturers supporting the Wi-Fi Calling standard on their devices. We've been ready for a good two years at network level. From the launch of the S6, in fact.

You can do Wi-Fi calling in two ways;

1. Use a proprietary client which allows you to install an app to do it. This is the old way of doing it. Quickly becoming obsolete now. The networks who went this way, invested a crappola of money they'll likely never recover.

2. Use the new standards and get it built into the firmware of the device. This is the way I prefer and the way everyone will be going in the future. But you need the handset vendors to support it and, at this point, we've got Samsung and Apple on board. Others will now follow soon.

I'm (personally still) not convinced doing an app for older phones is the correct way to go.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Wi-Fi calling now on S6, S7 and (soon) S8 and whole range of iPhones.

This is a function of the handset manufacturers supporting the Wi-Fi Calling standard on their devices. We've been ready for a good two years at network level. From the launch of the S6, in fact.

You can do Wi-Fi calling in two ways;

1. Use a proprietary client which allows you to install an app to do it. This is the old way of doing it. Quickly becoming obsolete now. The networks who went this way, invested a crappola of money they'll likely never recover.

2. Use the new standards and get it built into the firmware of the device. This is the way I prefer and the way everyone will be going in the future. But you need the handset vendors to support it and, at this point, we've got Samsung and Apple on board. Others will now follow soon.

I'm (personally still) not convinced doing an app for older phones is the correct way to go.
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Do you perhaps know if this situation might be resolved by the recent appearance of a Google Carrier Settings app in the play store?
 
Both Vodacom and MTN has impressive lte advanced networks considering the limited spectrum.

Price still remain the main issue here not speed. Data on these two network is not affordable. When you can buy food to feed you two weeks for cheaper than a 1GB data bundle you know that data is still very expensive in SA.

10Kg spar mielie meel R79.95 and R70 gravy and soup mixes vs R149 for 1GB data.

Not a fair comparison at all but just something to keep in mind.
 
jannievanzyl said:
If it comes out, no probs.

But I'm not convinced. Not today. 3 years ago, yes. Today? Not so sure.
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I think it is as relevant today as it was 3 years ago. The fact that there are only two manufactuers whose phones can use Vodacom volte and vowifi, and even then a very limited amount of very expensive models highlights it.
 
Ockie said:
I think it is as relevant today as it was 3 years ago. The fact that there are only two manufactuers whose phones can use Vodacom volte and vowifi, and even then a very limited amount of very expensive models highlights it.
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Think it'll change quickly now.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Think it'll change quickly now.
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I hope so, but like me, there are customers out there that got phones not sold through Vodacom that does support Volte, but because it does not have Vodacom specific firmware on it, nor get it, we will not be able to use it on Vodacom. Also, we all are aware that software updates are scarce at the best of times for android phones. My sister's huawei P9 Lite for example, will this be updated to Nougat at least? I am not holding my breath, not to mention if it will actually receive a update to use volte and vowifi on Vodacom, even though I am pretty sure the hardware supports it. :(
 
Ockie said:
I hope so, but like me, there are customers out there that got phones not sold through Vodacom that does support Volte, but because it does not have Vodacom specific firmware on it, nor get it, we will not be able to use it on Vodacom. Also, we all are aware that software updates are scarce at the best of times for android phones. My sister's huawei P9 Lite for example, will this be updated to Nougat at least? I am not holding my breath, not to mention if it will actually receive a update to use volte and vowifi on Vodacom, even though I am pretty sure the hardware supports it. :(
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Yes, it's a challenge to get the handset manufacturers to support older phones.

On spending an obscene amount of money to get WiFi Calling on older handsets; I'd (personally) rather see that investment go towards better bundle management.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Yes, it's a challenge to get the handset manufacturers to support older phones.

On spending an obscene amount of money to get WiFi Calling on older handsets; I'd (personally) rather see that investment go towards better bundle management.
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I dont understand why it would cost so much money to develop a app? such a app can be developed by Vodafone for the entire Vodafone group of companies and used in all markets. Believe it or not, but there are many areas in the first world where there are no or very bad reception. My friend in the UK had virtually 0 signal in his little hamlet, but had great fixed line connectivity with wifi.
 
Ockie said:
I dont understand why it would cost so much money to develop a app? such a app can be developed by Vodafone for the entire Vodafone group of companies and used in all markets. Believe it or not, but there are many areas in the first world where there are no or very bad reception. My friend in the UK had virtually 0 signal in his little hamlet, but had great fixed line connectivity with wifi.
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If only it was just an app. :)

It the work needed in the core network that drive the costs up. Ask some of the other MNOs who launched this what they paid. ;)
 
jannievanzyl said:
Let me check.

What's in the S8?
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I believe the S8 comes with RCS support built in, but not sure if it actually works. Samsung has done their own implementation in their own messaging app instead of going with Google Messages, but as I understand it, it is universal profile compliant. Whether it actually works on Vodacom I dont know as I dont have access to one to test it. Google Messages is now RCS enabled, but only works and requests for it to be enabled in the app if the network supports it.
 
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