Vodacom Peering with iGames

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Hi Guys,

I would just like to know why Vodacom is not peering with iGames anymore? I have been playing COD MW on these servers for a long time now. And now all of a sudden you cannot get onto the servers cause ur ping is sky-high.... I was looking at buying the 2gb + 2gb Vodacom 3G for playing online, but if I cannot get onto the servers there is no point. Could someone please clarify this and telll me if they will be peering with them again in the very near future.

Thanks
 
Creature said:
I would just like to know why Vodacom is not peering with iGames anymore? I have been playing COD MW on these servers for a long time now. And now all of a sudden you cannot get onto the servers cause ur ping is sky-high.... I was looking at buying the 2gb + 2gb Vodacom 3G for playing online, but if I cannot get onto the servers there is no point. Could someone please clarify this and telll me if they will be peering with them again in the very near future.
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Can you post a traceroute?
 
I will do that. But will only be able to do that later on tonight. Dnt have my 3G with me at the mo.
 
Creature said:
Hi Guys,

I would just like to know why Vodacom is not peering with iGames anymore? I have been playing COD MW on these servers for a long time now. And now all of a sudden you cannot get onto the servers cause ur ping is sky-high.... I was looking at buying the 2gb + 2gb Vodacom 3G for playing online, but if I cannot get onto the servers there is no point. Could someone please clarify this and telll me if they will be peering with them again in the very near future.

Thanks
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You are correct mate. I am responsible for the peering of iGame and basically anyone at JINX enjoys open peering to the service. I'll have emailed Vodacom each month with an open offer to peer and haven't ever received a reply...

BTW: Vodacom never ever peered with iGame. We paid to peer with Vodacom and that in short is too high a price to pay.
 
I'm in the same boat as Creature also using Vodacom 3G to play online, iGame gives me a 250/300 plus ping, it's a real pity since the iGame servers are usually busy :(

Thanks for the explanation r00igev@@r, much appreciated :)
 
NSB said:
I'm in the same boat as Creature also using Vodacom 3G to play online, iGame gives me a 250/300 plus ping, it's a real pity since the iGame servers are usually busy :(

Thanks for the explanation r00igev@@r, much appreciated :)
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Yes, I don't think the big red mean machine will give a hoot about two lost souls on their network. Maybe we can persuade the mod to put up a poll to gauge how many gamers there are on the network that want access to iGame?
 
I think that is a good idea. Because I have 3 buddies that wanted to take the new VC 3G deal and are now going with MTN just because of this reason. So who knows how many ppl are going to go with MTN rather. I wish there was something that could be done as this is so annoying..... Please help (somehow) r00igev@@r :)
 
Creature said:
I think that is a good idea. Because I have 3 buddies that wanted to take the new VC 3G deal and are now going with MTN just because of this reason. So who knows how many ppl are going to go with MTN rather. I wish there was something that could be done as this is so annoying..... Please help (somehow) r00igev@@r :)
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Ok, I have put through a formal request again to Vodacom. I will provide feedback on the response.
 
Thanks so much bud. If they peer with iGames again I will definitely go and get me the 2 + 2 deal they have. Thanks for effort.
 
Hi r00igev@@r I got a question for you which has been puzzling me :)

On Sunday, through out the day, the iGame servers gave me my normal ping that I would get from any of the other servers (Wage,Mweb etc). Monday was the opposite when I checked them in the server browser they showed the increased 250/300 ping nothing of the normal 109/95 ping of Sunday which I got. I checked the servers just now (6:14pm) they where showing 250/300 but now they are displaying 109/95 again :confused:

Not that I'm complaining mind you ;)

Just wondering how come this happens, it has done the same thing in the past changing from the non peering one (250/300) to the normal one in a matter of hours.

I'm playing Crysis 2 currently so this applies to those specific servers.

Thanks for any info!
 
NSB said:
Hi r00igev@@r I got a question for you which has been puzzling me :)

On Sunday, through out the day, the iGame servers gave me my normal ping that I would get from any of the other servers (Wage,Mweb etc). Monday was the opposite when I checked them in the server browser they showed the increased 250/300 ping nothing of the normal 109/95 ping of Sunday which I got. I checked the servers just now (6:14pm) they where showing 250/300 but now they are displaying 109/95 again :confused:

Not that I'm complaining mind you ;)

Just wondering how come this happens, it has done the same thing in the past changing from the non peering one (250/300) to the normal one in a matter of hours.

I'm playing Crysis 2 currently so this applies to those specific servers.

Thanks for any info!
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Sure.

Because all ISPs in South Africa shaft and back-stab each other by refusing to peer gratuitously like the rest of the civilized world we will continue to have these abnormalities. All ISPs in South Africa participate in traffic engineering which creates a false economy around so-called "content providing". (i.e. double billing the provider of the content and the consumer of the content.) BTW: MWEB successfully blackmailed these ISPs with the exception of SAIX to start gratuitous peering. Unluckily, the consent to peer has not been applied unconditionally.
So most of the iGame IP transit happens via the yellow submarine. Now when you experience latency it is typically somewhere in these upstreams. Latency is often introduced at upstream transit points, often as a result of traffic engineering.
The last few days the yellow submarine has had it's bilges flooded and has required some pumping to clear them.
Vodacom transits to iGame via SAIX. Having used the Vodacom network previously, I have also noticed unbalanced BGP blocks causing congestion on the upstream through to SAIX, which is then resolved via traffic engineering.
The end result with all the above shena****ns is that user experience is compromised as it is depended on a chain which is only as strong as its weakest link. The offer to peer openly with any ISP willing to connect to iGame remains (and this will largely solve the chain problem above).
 
high ping

I also use to play on the Igame server COD MW, using Vodacom and can't anymore.
Currently using Cell C but having the same ping problem.

And some advice, never ever buy Cell C internet, it is useless and a load of ....
 
Shoefly said:
I also use to play on the Igame server COD MW, using Vodacom and can't anymore.
Currently using Cell C but having the same ping problem.

And some advice, never ever buy Cell C internet, it is useless and a load of ....
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I have emailed everyone I know at Vodacom about peering with iGame and have been consistently ignored.

Cell C should be better is two IP transits closer to iGame than Vodacom so should be better? However, I don't have insight into how their traffic is engineered so there might be an optimization issue.
 
I'm still on Vodacom but I've moved games from Crysis to Brink now and strangely enough, I've never had the high latency on the iGame Servers for Brink.

Some thing very odd which I discovered which makes no sense at all, is disconnecting your Vodacom connection and reconnecting it until the ping comes right. It worked for me in Crysis 2 many times but why it worked I have no idea, it is a peering problem so it should not work like that :confused:
 
NSB said:
I'm still on Vodacom but I've moved games from Crysis to Brink now and strangely enough, I've never had the high latency on the iGame Servers for Brink.

Some thing very odd which I discovered which makes no sense at all, is disconnecting your Vodacom connection and reconnecting it until the ping comes right. It worked for me in Crysis 2 many times but why it worked I have no idea, it is a peering problem so it should not work like that :confused:
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The reason this works is because network providers usually bundle IP ranges together and advertise the bundled ranges separately across different physical interconnects. Your experience corresponds to an interconnect that is congested and you being unlucky enough to be assigned on to it.
 
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