Vodacom playing with fire

At the time, Cell C marketed its mobile broadband network and services as “4Gs”, which the company explained stood for “4 Great Service” and “4 Great Speed”.
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Lol :D
 
No Vodacom isn't doing the same, they are blatantly lying and misleading people. Cell C didn't describe their network as 4G and didn't mislead anyone.
 
Swa said:
No Vodacom isn't doing the same, they are blatantly lying and misleading people. Cell C didn't describe their network as 4G and didn't mislead anyone.
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It was initially 4G, then they quickly changed it to 4Gs, from what I recall.

And its 5 years later, I demand whatever is better than G and H and H+ (as shown on my phone) is called 4G dammit.
 
supersunbird said:
It was initially 4G, then they quickly changed it to 4Gs, from what I recall.

And its 5 years later, I demand whatever is better than G and H and H+ (as shown on my phone) is called 4G dammit.
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I don't remember ever seeing any material where it was just 4G. And Vodacom made the complaint against their 4Gs in any case. Now they're making a 180 and using the same rationale Cell C did.

Sorry but just being faster doesn't cut it. They went with the strict ITU definition so they must abide by it.
 
At the time, Cell C marketed its mobile broadband network and services as “4Gs”, which the company explained stood for “4 Great Service” and “4 Great Speed”
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This was the worst though, personally at the time many took it as 4G as in 4G after 3G speed :sick:
 
Wall said:
Vodacom are dicks
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Excellent summary.

Needs to be on a billboard as well next to the highway past Vodaworld where there is never reception, but a lot of repeaters at private businesses.
 
In my home town Vodacom got a 4G ad billboard. They do not have 4G/LTE/LTE-A (whatever the hell its called) coverage in my town.

Can I lay a complain against them?
 
Sollie said:
Excellent summary.

Needs to be on a billboard as well next to the highway past Vodaworld where there is never reception, but a lot of repeaters at private businesses.
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Never had good signal in the parking or building at the Nokia Siemens building, now ironically enough a Vodacom building...
 
Why is this not surprising ?

CellC is busy with a LTE roll-out and they're calling it exactly that; LTE. And here comes Vodacom with the same advertising that they gave CellC stick about; pretty much on form.
 
That ad and the Vodacom Summer ad airing on TV is so misleading am actually shocked the ASA is dismissing all the complaints against these ads.

Vodacom advertising 4G in a remote area. God I will be happy if there is 2G and we know that 2G can't make video calls be it a device feature or via a video calling app.

I have travelled by car from Richards Bay to JHB and we had to take a couple of detours on long remote gravel roads to avoid strikes that blocked the road and I can tell you there is NO "4G" coverage on Vodacom anywhere near the remote areas. GPRS or EDGE and if you are lucky 3G.

LTE coverage is only for the highly populated urban areas and Vodacom's own coverage maps confirms this.


marine1 said:
I hope someone takes them to the ASA
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I complained so many times but the ASA just dismissed my claims saying ookla tests are sufficient enough evidence to confirm that Vodacom is the best network in SA. When I said but what about the people that could not even do test because of poor coverage or not having a handset that is compatible they just countered that saying that % would not be high enough to alter the results......
 
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cavedog said:
I complained so many times but the ASA just dismissed my claims saying ookla tests are sufficient enough evidence to confirm that Vodacom is the best network in SA. When I said but what about the people that could not even do test because of poor coverage or not having a handset that is compatible they just countered that saying that % would not be high enough to alter the results......
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I would side with them, if you compare the other networks in these areas, how were they? Might be even worse the VC...
 
supersunbird said:
I would side with them, if you compare the other networks in these areas, how were they? Might be even worse the VC...
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Not always.

Technically Cellc has the best network if you take in consideration that they have a national 2G roaming agreement with Vodacom. So they might actually cover 100% of SA between their own towers and Vodacom.

But yeah between Vodacom and MTN both give each other a good go for their money in various locations.

I took 2 LTE compatible device with. LG G4 with MTN simcard in and my iPhone 5 with a Vodacom sim. They compared well but I felt that MTN had much more 3G coverage in remote areas. Vodacom did not always have coverage and displayed no service 4 times where MTN did have service the entire time.

I could not test calls obviously so it's just my opinion and the results are not factual or recorded.

Just saying it is so much more complicated to prove the Best Network in SA than simply slapping ookla results into the ASA's face.....

I'm not taking anything away from Vodacom because they got a impressive network that most likely cost so much money no one would come close. My gripe is when you say you are the Best network in SA you better be the best and from what I have seen you most certainly are not the best network but one of the best networks.... For me the thrown has to be shared between MTN and Vodacom.
 
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marine1 said:
I hope someone takes them to the ASA
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I've been saying this for a while now in this forum too. Since they mention rollout of LTE-A (advance) which is inline with 4G i think the ship has left as Vodacom will argue its in progress and so technically they can offer it, just not everywhere.. lol could be just one lonely place even hahaha.

But its interesting.. MTN shows as LTE on iPhones and Vodacom 4G so i'm thinking its their marketing team strat. Anyway i think someone at Cell-C should be slapped for not putting Vodacom in an awkward position, i.e. lost opportunity mostly.
 
kianm said:
This was the worst though, personally at the time many took it as 4G as in 4G after 3G speed :sick:
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Many? Sounds like weasel words to me as I didn't hear from anybody who actually took it as such. Even if they did, according to Vodacom many operators are using it to describe faster than 3G speeds. Exactly what Cell C said at the time.
 
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