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I believe there is some commitment to minimize impact on users and franchise holders.

Union blog

What is happening helps explain the customer service (or lack thereof) situation, in my opinion.

Unions have been pushing for more broadband access around the world. I wonder if this will be the case here. Like in this case...
 
A union official no doubt! I'm tempted to ras!


Librado said:
I believe there is some commitment to minimize impact on users and franchise holders.

Union blog

What is happening helps explain the customer service (or lack thereof) situation, in my opinion.

Unions have been pushing for more broadband access around the world. I wonder if this will be the case here. Like in this case...
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BS! Show the evidence for 1,2 and 3.
 
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Vodacom is still in the last century when it comes to treating its workers. Workers at Vodacom do not think they are promoted, treated or paid based on their ability or contributions to the company. Instead, most feel that race is still the determinant factor when it comes to pay, promotions and treatment.
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Uh oh, sounds seriaaas.:eek:
 
I will take being confused with a union official as a compliment. Truth is, i have been following this very closely, and I don't want to hide my labour rights bias.

As someone who studies policy reform in telecommunications, i have been very curious that the issue of the Vodacom dispute was receiving no attention for a while on this forum, given the potential impact that it has on users.

So I decided to prod a little. Politics make strange bedfellows, they say, and I would say broadband has a potential to do so. Around the world, (Australia is but another case to the one I posted, see
http://www.ceputelserv.asn.au/ ), unions are basically pushing for wider broadband access.

The logic is that the installation and maintenance of broadband on a large scale requires a relatively large, stable & skilled workforce (as opposed to cellular technology). Unions are looking for stable membership in the long run. Consumers are looking for wider and cheaper broadband access. (see also www.uniglobalunion.org)

The question I have, in the case of South Africa, is, Why would they not be talking to each other?

Take into account that CWU has threatened to strike at Telkoms, where it is (I believe) a majority union...

And the whole "spam" and BS... Well, i guess those are just the ups and downs of intelligent exchange on forums. ;)
 
Librado said:
I will take being confused with a union official as a compliment. Truth is, i have been following this very closely, and I don't want to hide my labour rights bias.

As someone who studies policy reform in telecommunications, i have been very curious that the issue of the Vodacom dispute was receiving no attention for a while on this forum, given the potential impact that it has on users.

So I decided to prod a little. Politics make strange bedfellows, they say, and I would say broadband has a potential to do so. Around the world, (Australia is but another case to the one I posted, see
http://www.ceputelserv.asn.au/ ), unions are basically pushing for wider broadband access.

The logic is that the installation and maintenance of broadband on a large scale requires a relatively large, stable & skilled workforce (as opposed to cellular technology). Unions are looking for stable membership in the long run. Consumers are looking for wider and cheaper broadband access. (see also www.uniglobalunion.org)

The question I have, in the case of South Africa, is, Why would they not be talking to each other?

Take into account that CWU has threatened to strike at Telkoms, where it is (I believe) a majority union...

And the whole "spam" and BS... Well, i guess those are just the ups and downs of intelligent exchange on forums. ;)
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Does not answer

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BS! Show the evidence for 1,2 and 3.
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Perhaps that was a little unfair of me because those questions cannot be answered. The only thing to do is withdraw the statements as untrue.

But your use of sarcasm, and your posting of a propoganda laced link show clearly that you are lead by the nose. ;)

That drivel you posted a link to, only serves to lower even further the reputation of sht stirring unions in this country. At the very least they should hire someone to write believeable releases for them. Perhaps then they will begin to garner some support for the masses. But treating us as if we are stupid does not help their cause!
 
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:confused: Nationally, Vodacom says 200. CWU says 600.

Back home, 20 people is not bad for a picket. However, if the intention was 20 people for a strike :rolleyes:

At the risk of being accused of being a rabid intransigent person who gives unions the benefit of the doubt, I will post a link laced with deadly propaganda which makes me think that there could be two sides to every story.


Union propaganda

Yes, as you can see, I prefer sarcasm to calling what others post "BS" threatening to RAS, saying others are lead by the nose by sht stirring unions... A little more respectful, don't you think? ;)
 
Why don't they recognise this union. If it is so small and insignificant, then what are Vodacom afraid of?
 
Librado said:
:confused: Nationally, Vodacom says 200. CWU says 600.

Back home, 20 people is not bad for a picket. However, if the intention was 20 people for a strike :rolleyes:

At the risk of being accused of being a rabid intransigent person who gives unions the benefit of the doubt, I will post a link laced with deadly propaganda which makes me think that there could be two sides to every story.


Union propaganda

Yes, as you can see, I prefer sarcasm to calling what others post "BS" threatening to RAS, saying others are lead by the nose by sht stirring unions... A little more respectful, don't you think? ;)
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I call it like I see it!


ROFLMAO @ that link. You/your union fellows should have a little more respect when asking that Joe Public support you/them. Do they really think everyone is that stupid?

Did I mention the lowest form of wit before?

I'm tired of all the BS lies that come out of both sides in a dispute. Unfortunately for your buddies, they have nothing I want at this point. I'll swallow that if they gain ownership of a cheaper telcoms provider. :rolleyes:

Still stinks of spam.
 
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