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Vox vs Telfree
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gmza
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Telfree does *NOT* resell Vox. Telfree has its own network. In fact, it had interconnects with all major operators before Vox did!
In terms of technology, infrastructure and quality, both are similar.
In terms of call costs and packages, they are quite different. See vox.co.za and telfree.co.za for their pricing.
Another provider is Switch Telecom (www.switchtel.co.za) which is similarly placed in terms of quality, infrastructure, etc, but has neat value-add systems (detailed CDRs, export to CSV, online access to invoices/billing changes, etc.) and also offers various additional services, including trunk lines with number ranges for VoIP PBX'es, Hosted PBX solutions, conferencing, etc. Switch also offers VoIP over iBurst, 3G and various other networks, so you're not restricted to ADSL.
In terms of technology, infrastructure and quality, both are similar.
In terms of call costs and packages, they are quite different. See vox.co.za and telfree.co.za for their pricing.
Another provider is Switch Telecom (www.switchtel.co.za) which is similarly placed in terms of quality, infrastructure, etc, but has neat value-add systems (detailed CDRs, export to CSV, online access to invoices/billing changes, etc.) and also offers various additional services, including trunk lines with number ranges for VoIP PBX'es, Hosted PBX solutions, conferencing, etc. Switch also offers VoIP over iBurst, 3G and various other networks, so you're not restricted to ADSL.
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GMSA. stop punting your service.
Vox and Telfree have different networks as to who's network is better, thats opinion.
Vox and Telfree have different networks as to who's network is better, thats opinion.
dmatthysen
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Telfree has thier own Softswitch; the same as VOX; I believe that Telfree is using the same Carriers as VOX.
Other providers which also has their own SoftSwitch (interconnected) are MWEB; Switch2IP; and upcoming Vodacom.
Smaller ISP`s like GVSC; YSL etc are VOX resellers.
comparing the quality of VoIP providers is like comparing the quality of All Bran at different supermarkets... the products are essentially the same... its the service you get when buying the product that's different...
All VoIP providers rely on ADSL and Internet Connections to offer their service... if you have a bad DSL connection, you will have a bad VoIP experience.
Same as my Gran used to do... if she bought All Bran at Checkers and it was stale... she bought the next box of All Bran at Pick 'n' Pay... they will teach those bastards at Kellogs!
All VoIP providers rely on ADSL and Internet Connections to offer their service... if you have a bad DSL connection, you will have a bad VoIP experience.
Same as my Gran used to do... if she bought All Bran at Checkers and it was stale... she bought the next box of All Bran at Pick 'n' Pay... they will teach those bastards at Kellogs!
I've eaten Kellogs all bran, and no-name all bran, and to be honest the no-name brand stuff tastes crap, definately not the same as the Kellogs.
Maybe I'm just crazy??
But we were comparing All Bran with All Bran... personally... I prefer Rice Crispies... but I'm just crazy...
The quality VoIP service you are getting is a function of basically your internet connection to your ISP and that of the party you are calling.
VoIP providers like Vox and Telfree setup your call via SIP.Once the call is set up and your codecs negotiated , the audio path (voice) is streamed on a peer to peer basis - that from the calling party straight to the called party.
At this stage the VoiP provider does little in terms of call quality and you are at the mercy of your ISP
www.ifoni.net
VoIP providers like Vox and Telfree setup your call via SIP.Once the call is set up and your codecs negotiated , the audio path (voice) is streamed on a peer to peer basis - that from the calling party straight to the called party.
At this stage the VoiP provider does little in terms of call quality and you are at the mercy of your ISP
www.ifoni.net
Voip Quality
I disagree with some of these statements.
There are in SA two main issues around the Voip quality:
The first already mentioned is your connectivity to the Internet. (Your ISP)
So ADSL vs Wireless providers makes a difference etc and either of these will be less reliable than to quality of dedicated links where some planning has gone into capacity etc.
The second and what also counts quiet heavily in terms of quality is the infrastructure, capacity and different interconnection methods of the provider, to deal with the different routes. ie Sending a call on to one the GSM networks will be better through a proper interconnection than through a Sim farm. If you are getting "VOIP" call costs less than R1,25 to a cellphone, then chances are your provider even if they have proper interconnects, are sending it through Sim farms. (I think the "interconnection" method is a cost of R1,25)
So very important to this quality issue is these "Sim farms" as currently this is mostly the method used for routing a call to GSM. (Most bigger providers would offer both options to the corporate, at different pricing) The Home VOIP pricing is mostly based and modeled on the Sim Farm method. None of the providers carry much traffic in relation to proper interconnection, as they would simply be priced out the market. Running and managing Sim farms is a minefield and different providers are better than others at it. Many are overloaded and badly managed. The GSM networks hate these "farms" and need to feed these Farms with bandwidth in the form of GSM base stations and Pico cells.( not hardwired interconnection) Remember the calls to the different gsm networks needs to be split as well, so this method requires careful planning in terms of capacity required from the different GSM networks. In some areas the GSM Networks cannot provide additional or increase existing bandwith/capacity , therefore where the providers have put up a Sim farm is also very important.
I think the quality of a Voip call to GSM which is 70% of all traffic, from most phones, is therefore heavily influenced by the provider and how they manage these farms.
I disagree with some of these statements.
There are in SA two main issues around the Voip quality:
The first already mentioned is your connectivity to the Internet. (Your ISP)
So ADSL vs Wireless providers makes a difference etc and either of these will be less reliable than to quality of dedicated links where some planning has gone into capacity etc.
The second and what also counts quiet heavily in terms of quality is the infrastructure, capacity and different interconnection methods of the provider, to deal with the different routes. ie Sending a call on to one the GSM networks will be better through a proper interconnection than through a Sim farm. If you are getting "VOIP" call costs less than R1,25 to a cellphone, then chances are your provider even if they have proper interconnects, are sending it through Sim farms. (I think the "interconnection" method is a cost of R1,25)
So very important to this quality issue is these "Sim farms" as currently this is mostly the method used for routing a call to GSM. (Most bigger providers would offer both options to the corporate, at different pricing) The Home VOIP pricing is mostly based and modeled on the Sim Farm method. None of the providers carry much traffic in relation to proper interconnection, as they would simply be priced out the market. Running and managing Sim farms is a minefield and different providers are better than others at it. Many are overloaded and badly managed. The GSM networks hate these "farms" and need to feed these Farms with bandwidth in the form of GSM base stations and Pico cells.( not hardwired interconnection) Remember the calls to the different gsm networks needs to be split as well, so this method requires careful planning in terms of capacity required from the different GSM networks. In some areas the GSM Networks cannot provide additional or increase existing bandwith/capacity , therefore where the providers have put up a Sim farm is also very important.
I think the quality of a Voip call to GSM which is 70% of all traffic, from most phones, is therefore heavily influenced by the provider and how they manage these farms.