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Voxit promises significant mobile savings
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Vox's whole business plan looks suicidal to me. It won't take much for the larger players to take them out, particularly as we move into a competitive market. They are even more exposed to a drop in voice prices than Telkom, and that's saying a lot.
Making empty promises that they will be able to bypass the mobile operators over their own networks is naive, to say the least. They certainly won't get any takers for partnerships like this.
Making empty promises that they will be able to bypass the mobile operators over their own networks is naive, to say the least. They certainly won't get any takers for partnerships like this.
It is so easy to get publicity these days - just promise low broadband or telecoms costs. I wish the media organisations would start ignoring these "promise promise promise" press releases. Not a single one of these companies have brought anything concrete to the table in the past 5 years, yet they make constant promises. Worse than politicians they are.
the graduate
Senior Member
I agree completely.....
Also, iiith is correct.....in all these articles posted on MyAdsl.co.za over the last few months, "at a fraction of the cost" is clearly the new buzz-word.....I would like to see in terms of rands what "a fraction of the cost" represents...is it 5c, 20c, R1? Clearly, they way they make it sound, its going to be somthing like 10c/min...? Now who can believe that.....
I'm really starting to find all these articles worthless........can the journalist ask next time for a figure in Rands?
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So what's so special about mobile calls at R1.59 per minute?
Presumably the "significant mobile savings" are imminent.
Hi folks
I agree that many articles are indeed promises, but that is often the nature of the news. We are trying to bring you information of things which may happen in future, and obviously there is often no concrete pricing attached to this information.
One can also not blame Vox or whoever else for this information – the Vox CEO was asked about things which they will do in future, and Voxit is one of their initiatives. We used information from his presentation to do an article…he did not try to get publicity out of it. IN fact – companies often don’t want this information to get out. It is like some journalist breaking news that a new model of the iPhone or iPod is on its way, and people being upset that Apple did not give all the specs and pricing.
I hope this gives some idea as to why you guys often see these articles.
Regards,
RPM
I agree that many articles are indeed promises, but that is often the nature of the news. We are trying to bring you information of things which may happen in future, and obviously there is often no concrete pricing attached to this information.
One can also not blame Vox or whoever else for this information – the Vox CEO was asked about things which they will do in future, and Voxit is one of their initiatives. We used information from his presentation to do an article…he did not try to get publicity out of it. IN fact – companies often don’t want this information to get out. It is like some journalist breaking news that a new model of the iPhone or iPod is on its way, and people being upset that Apple did not give all the specs and pricing.
I hope this gives some idea as to why you guys often see these articles.
Regards,
RPM
Hi rpm.
Though I understand the importance of breaking news and stories "as they happen", and trying to get the scoop out there, a huge amount (and indeed the majority) of these stories are baseless, senseless and most often just a string of empty promises strung together.
With all due respect, this is not news - when something actually materialises from one of these companies (Vox and Goal are but two examples) that backs up what the article attempts to pass off as true and factual, then only it will be newsworthy - until then the esteemed journalists are simply sucking thumbs and speculating. It's sad how journalists have sold out to the companies they're supposed to be keeping in check.
Though I understand the importance of breaking news and stories "as they happen", and trying to get the scoop out there, a huge amount (and indeed the majority) of these stories are baseless, senseless and most often just a string of empty promises strung together.
With all due respect, this is not news - when something actually materialises from one of these companies (Vox and Goal are but two examples) that backs up what the article attempts to pass off as true and factual, then only it will be newsworthy - until then the esteemed journalists are simply sucking thumbs and speculating. It's sad how journalists have sold out to the companies they're supposed to be keeping in check.
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err.. I like my news ... new and not ... old.
Just because it isn't of interest to you doesn't mean that everyone else is exactly like you and shares your views and opinions.
Well good for you then! I'm rather tired of the countless 'Company X promises this, that and anything else' for years and years and years. Affordable braodband has been imminent for the better part of a decade now - guess what, we're still no closer than when this mess started. So, enjoy article after article of empty promises. Journalists gotta eat, so you're their perfect market. Doesn't mean we should all feel the way you do. Hundreds of articles all saying the same thing yet NEVER giving us a real, solid ounce of truth. That is NOT news.
Why thanks!
Then take the opposite of your own advice and don't read the articles...
and this has what to do with them saying they want to "allow users to make calls or send messages from their mobile phone ‘at a fraction of the current costs’."
(ok, I'm being a bit of a dick there and ignoring your comparison, but its prety weak..)
aah - you didn't quote me ...
So Vox Telecom CEO Douglas Reed never said they were going to "allow users to make calls or send messages from their mobile phone ‘at a fraction of the current costs’." at the MyADSL Broadband conference at Vodaworld?
Aaah - you mean he said it before somewhere and its was "old" by the time he said it at the conference?
yeah, I'm be smarky, sorry ...
the graduate
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Hi rpm,
Thanks for the post. Your comments make more sense than rwards.....what's his problem taking a swipe at readers and their comments...
Unfortunately I do not believe this "fraction of the current cost" rhetoric which has become all to common these days. It works this way, Telkom is overcharging everyone for everything. Once other "players" have laid their infrastructure and they "roll-out" their platform/business model/blah..blah..blah..., prices are expected to "plummet"....Plummet to what levels? Does this mean I can expect to pay R50/month in the "very near future (as in next year March)" for an "entry-level" 4Mbps DSL line with unlimited but shaped data bundle? I don't think so, but continually we are being mislead by this type of junk from these "telecommunications executives". They all have tens-hundreds of millions of rands of stock options in these companies and they will not follow a business model that will eat into their profits or share prices.
This "blame-Telkom" game is also becoming rather boring lately. I can honestly not see how powerful business executives don't have enough ba*ls to take on Telkom executives about its pricing if these guys did not derive some sort of "cash-back-bonus" from Telkom's pricing structure. Are you telling me that it is cheaper to roll out your own infrastructure than take on Telkom? The only reason why you will lay a new infrastructure is if that owned by Telkom is old, outdated and bound to collapse in the very near future. I have not heard of any infrastructure of Telkom that will support "en-mass" 10+ Mbps speeds. So, my take on all of this is that true broadband will continue to be the playing field of the rich in South Africa and Telkom in the "very-near-future" will only be able to provide 512kbps "broadband" access to the poorer masses at a time when 4 Mbps will be considered as the bare minimum for many services offered.
Finally, why are we paying for "data-bundles"? Why are we paying 1c/10c/40c/R2.00 per MB? I can understand me renting a line that will give me access, but why am I paying for the amount of information that I download or upload. It's the same as paying DStv R439 per month for access to DStv and then I'll still have to fork out x amount for the amount that I watch during the month. We are all paying for something we are not supposed to be paying for. In two years time we will be very unhappy for allowing this blatant robbery!!
Thanks for the post. Your comments make more sense than rwards.....what's his problem taking a swipe at readers and their comments...
Unfortunately I do not believe this "fraction of the current cost" rhetoric which has become all to common these days. It works this way, Telkom is overcharging everyone for everything. Once other "players" have laid their infrastructure and they "roll-out" their platform/business model/blah..blah..blah..., prices are expected to "plummet"....Plummet to what levels? Does this mean I can expect to pay R50/month in the "very near future (as in next year March)" for an "entry-level" 4Mbps DSL line with unlimited but shaped data bundle? I don't think so, but continually we are being mislead by this type of junk from these "telecommunications executives". They all have tens-hundreds of millions of rands of stock options in these companies and they will not follow a business model that will eat into their profits or share prices.
This "blame-Telkom" game is also becoming rather boring lately. I can honestly not see how powerful business executives don't have enough ba*ls to take on Telkom executives about its pricing if these guys did not derive some sort of "cash-back-bonus" from Telkom's pricing structure. Are you telling me that it is cheaper to roll out your own infrastructure than take on Telkom? The only reason why you will lay a new infrastructure is if that owned by Telkom is old, outdated and bound to collapse in the very near future. I have not heard of any infrastructure of Telkom that will support "en-mass" 10+ Mbps speeds. So, my take on all of this is that true broadband will continue to be the playing field of the rich in South Africa and Telkom in the "very-near-future" will only be able to provide 512kbps "broadband" access to the poorer masses at a time when 4 Mbps will be considered as the bare minimum for many services offered.
Finally, why are we paying for "data-bundles"? Why are we paying 1c/10c/40c/R2.00 per MB? I can understand me renting a line that will give me access, but why am I paying for the amount of information that I download or upload. It's the same as paying DStv R439 per month for access to DStv and then I'll still have to fork out x amount for the amount that I watch during the month. We are all paying for something we are not supposed to be paying for. In two years time we will be very unhappy for allowing this blatant robbery!!
HDC
Active Member
Do anyone really believe that a non-licensed operator, not paying the standard lebola to ICASA etc... is ever going to be allowed to "significantly cut costs on mobiles...."...?