A bit off topic, but have you used something like this;
(Mentioned it before but that thread went up in smoke.)
Direct "fast" downloads of torrents, community prolly hates it though. This one claims to be safe without a VPN.
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A bit off topic, but have you used something like this;
(Mentioned it before but that thread went up in smoke.)
Direct "fast" downloads of torrents, community prolly hates it though. This one claims to be safe without a VPN.
deweyzeph
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Be careful with these VPN's especially the free ones. While there is definitely a use case for using a VPN if you're in an unprotected public environment like an airport or a hotel or restaurant, when you're at home you're probably safer just not using a VPN just for the sake of using a VPN. Your ISP is a far more trustworthy conduit for your internet traffic than a VPN from some dodgy provider collecting who knows what kind of data about your internet habits.
Lol, based on what? You clearly aren't aware of the abuse of and by ISPs by powers that shouldn't be, wow.
Speedster
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Best free VPN is windscribe. What's dodgy about them?
deweyzeph
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So you would rather trust a random VPN service owned by some opaque holding company and dubious terms and conditions with your data over your own ISP? Most VPNs only provide the illusion of security. You're just pushing your security footprint up to another provider who might be doing even worse things with your data than your ISP is.
Is this another social media theory? Very odd, even for them.
VPNs are dedicated to their business model which is specifically for that purpose, and survive on reputation. Quite transparent too, and the respected ones long lived by now without the issues you imagine.
elf_lord_ZC5
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Also, you don't use just any VPN, but yeah, as with all things in life, you make your choices, and takes your chances.
deweyzeph
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Yes, I'm quite familiar how VPNs work thanks. I regularly setup site-to-site and client-access VPNs for remote working using Wireguard and OpenVPN. These are VPNs between 2 trusted sources and are the true definition of a secure virtual private network.
When you purchase a VPN subscription from a VPN provider that you have not setup yourself you are in fact only indulging in the illusion of security because it is not a truly secure network. 1 end of the connection (the VPN provider) is a complete unknown from the consumer's point of view. Not only can that VPN provider intercept your traffic, but they also have full network access to the device that you are running the VPN client from (usually a laptop or phone). Your average VPN user would have no way of knowing how to firewall off their laptop from an inbound attack coming down the VPN. In effect you're bypassing the security of your home router and opening up another attack vector through the VPN. It's not paranoia, it's just fact.
I've also got an IT history, was both a tech manager and IT Officer of pretty well known companies. Anyway it's an established industry, you are simply being neurotic as far as mainstream VPNs go, and I have to wonder what your agenda is. These subjects went past the need for serious professional discussion years ago.
When last did you hear of an individual inbound attack. Nah, argue with others here if you want but doubt anyone's buying it.
Maybe start by answering post 24, I use the same top VPN.
backstreetboy
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Yes I've spoken to the owner before. I also get much better adblocking since they have 60+ million people that can submit bug reports. Then I get stuff cheaper like Youtube Premium etc. Not to mention I can unblock BBC Iplayer, ITV, Zillions of free movies on Youtube etc. etc.
JuliusSeizure
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I used Urban VPN which is free for a while. It's great if you just want to surf from another country but not the best for streaming.
I use NordVPN.
I use NordVPN.
https://windscribe.com/ethics
How We Operate
At Windscribe, we believe that the internet should be free of censorship, personal data harvesting, targeted advertising, and geographic restrictions. We adhere to this philosophy very seriously, it is what distinguishes Windscribe from most other VPNs out there.Self Funded
Windscribe is entirely self funded. We don't have any VC's breathing down our necks and telling us what to do. Our users are our principal investors, and we are beholden only to them. Ensuring their online privacy with simple and easy to use software keeps our lights on, and we wouldn't have it any other way.Personal Data is Optional
You can create a Windscribe account without sharing a shred of your personal information. We don't collect any identifying data: you don't have to provide us a name or email address, and you can pay us with crypto to ensure your anonymity. Together we can ensure that all of your identifying information remains yours, and yours alone...No Bull Poop
A VPN is not a magic privacy button powered by "military grade encryption". A VPN alone will actually do very little for your privacy, and is just one of several tools that you should have in your toolbelt. The other being our browser extensions, which are jam-packed with additional privacy features that go above and beyond of what's available from any other VPN company.Total Transparency
We don't have a traditional marketing department staffed with snake oil salesmen. We have a real-time Transparency Report, which provides you with a real time feed of data requests we receive. If we make a mistake, we tell you about it, even though it would have been very easy not to. Virtually all of our client software is open source, so you can validate any claim we make yourself...A few of us my side also like them
JuliusSeizure
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Actually, they don't also seem to have a limit on devices or at least aren't strict on it like the other ones. You can share account among a number of people.
@deweyzeph , here's your last argument sorted out - not an actual personal threat, summed up in the last couple of paragraphs
windscribe.com
There's deeper protection/control from a DNS Service for those who want it, best one seems to be ControlD(.com)
BTW, it's made by... Windscribe ;- )
Maybe @BBSA can tell us more about it, I haven't used one.
Do Windscribe servers have DDoS protection?
Do Windscribe servers have DDoS protection? See how attacks are handled, why full shielding would reduce privacy, and what happens if a server is targeted.
There's deeper protection/control from a DNS Service for those who want it, best one seems to be ControlD(.com)
BTW, it's made by... Windscribe ;- )
Maybe @BBSA can tell us more about it, I haven't used one.
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I am happy with Controld. I mainly use it to change my location and block ads. They offer a 30 days free trial for people to test.@deweyzeph , here's your last argument sorted out - not an actual personal threat, summed up in the last couple of paragraphs
Do Windscribe servers have DDoS protection?
Do Windscribe servers have DDoS protection? See how attacks are handled, why full shielding would reduce privacy, and what happens if a server is targeted.
There's deeper protection/control from a DNS Service for those who want it, best one seems to be ControlD(.com)
BTW, it's made by... Windscribe ;- )
Maybe @BBSA can tell us more about it, I haven't used one.
Eish4
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Imma say it,
NordVPN
I’ve been using it for the past 2 years and it works for everything for me, it’s got dedicated onion servers, double vpn and is able to maintain my full internet speed the most, only thing is them trying to sell you other things. I got auto renewed on there “scam” price because when you turn on auto billing they give you a free month. When I enquired for a refund they gave me an extra 18 months, so I’m pretty happy with there service
In my opinion, nord is the way
Herr der Verboten
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Between this and surfshark, sadly it just can't perform on my nv shield pro tv box. Windscribe just works and SS just have issues. So it's either their android app or the smartbox that is full of ****, because in one of my *nix boxes SS works flawlessly. I guess it's Windscribe until I find something else for the nv shield that just works like expressvpn. I did try custom openvpn as well as wiregaurd apps for SS.
Herr der Verboten
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On that note, Surshark only has a trial period for 7 days if you download and activate via mobile. Windscribe "has one" for 30 days if you select a single country + unlimited for about R60. Still better option than 7 days of SS...
Besides I literally only use US for tunneled vod.
Besides I literally only use US for tunneled vod.
elf_lord_ZC5
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Not had issues, using ControlD on a MikroTik AX2, for streaming forgein content tho I watch mostly BBC, ITVX etc. Run it behind my RAIN Huawei 5G CPE Pro.