Vumatel with own router?

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Wanted to ask if anyone is using their own router with the Vumatel CPE?

I just signed up with CipherWave/HomeConnect, and was informed that I am required to use the router that they provide to connect to the internet, rather than my own OpenWRT WAN router. I assume there is some PPPoE or PPPoA connection going on that they don't want me to know about/may not tell me about, allegedly to protect the Vumatel network.

Sounds rather odd to me, and wanted to confirm.
 
No authentication. It's done by MAC address of your router. As long as it has an Ethernet wan port that can do dhcp it will work.
 
I am using my own router. I am with cw though. I would be very unhappy if I was not allowed to do so.
 
Thanks for the responses, sounds like the issue I am having (service interruption) is with Vumatel, not CipherWave's issue at all.

Appreciated!
 
Sinbad said:
No authentication. It's done by MAC address of your router. As long as it has an Ethernet wan port that can do dhcp it will work.
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Done by MAC Address of my router? Do I have to register it with them? Or do you mean that it is done by the fibre port that I am connected to, and whatever ethernet device I connect should just work?
 
RoganDawes said:
Done by MAC Address of my router? Do I have to register it with them? Or do you mean that it is done by the fibre port that I am connected to, and whatever ethernet device I connect should just work?
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Do not plug a laptop or desktop directly into the CPE. This will cause major issues.

Plug your router in to the CPE. Connect your laptop/desktop to the router and sign up to your service through the Vumatel portal.

The 1st device you connect to the Vumatel CPE will be registered through the MAC address to connect to the network.
 
RoganDawes said:
Done by MAC Address of my router? Do I have to register it with them? Or do you mean that it is done by the fibre port that I am connected to, and whatever ethernet device I connect should just work?
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D3athD00r said:
Do not plug a laptop or desktop directly into the CPE. This will cause major issues.

Plug your router in to the CPE. Connect your laptop/desktop to the router and sign up to your service through the Vumatel portal.

The 1st device you connect to the Vumatel CPE will be registered through the MAC address to connect to the network.
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This.
If you change router you need to get support to release the lock.
 
The CPE has been known to register multiple Mac addresses which won't work. Only the 1st Mac address will work.

Getting support to figure it out is laborious because technically it shouldn't be possible.
 
Sinbad said:
This.
If you change router you need to get support to release the lock.
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Indeed, this does seem to be my problem. HomeConnect will be supplying a Mikrotik that is apparently required to get the full speed allocated. And of course, no access to the router itself to configure things like port forwards, etc :-(
 
RoganDawes said:
Indeed, this does seem to be my problem. HomeConnect will be supplying a Mikrotik that is apparently required to get the full speed allocated. And of course, no access to the router itself to configure things like port forwards, etc :-(
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Go with a different isp then!
 
Sinbad said:
Go with a different isp then!
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+1

But the mac locks are limited to the amount of IPs allowed per service, pretty much all the ISPs limit this to 1 Public IP. Hence why this happens.
 
Sinbad said:
Go with a different isp then!
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Yeah, that would make sense, except HC tell me that Vuma has already charged them for activating my port, so I'd have to pay them the R999 activation fee regardless. And then I'd have to pay that to the next ISP as well, I guess. Let's see how it goes, going forward. If they are terrible, I'll post here :-)
 
RoganDawes said:
Indeed, this does seem to be my problem. HomeConnect will be supplying a Mikrotik that is apparently required to get the full speed allocated. And of course, no access to the router itself to configure things like port forwards, etc :-(
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I spoke to them about this, and they will forward all ports to your router, and disable WiFi if requested.
 
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h00va said:
I spoke to them about this, and they will forward all port to your router, and disable WiFi if requested.
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That's not the same.

You might want port forwarding to an internal server - eg VPN or CCTV cameras. Will they do that custom config for you?
 
Sinbad said:
That's not the same.

You might want port forwarding to an internal server - eg VPN or CCTV cameras. Will they do that custom config for you?
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Yes, they will do custom config, however I wanted to control the port forwarding myself. Their solution was to forward all ports to my router, and then I can control the port forwarding on my own router router, without constantly involving them. I want to do it for testing various systems, devices, and possibly CCTV too. Effectively you end up port forwarding twice, or double NAT'ing. Their router will just become a "bridge", and offer no services. All security, DHCP, DNS, config, etc will ultimately rest with your own router, in the same way it did with ADSL for example.

I have done this type of config on corporate networks too, especially with VC units, and have never had an issue.
 
h00va said:
Yes, they will do custom config, however I wanted to control the port forwarding myself. Their solution was to forward all ports to my router, and then I can control the port forwarding on my own router router, without constantly involving them. I want to do it for testing various systems, devices, and possibly CCTV too. Effectively you end up port forwarding twice, or double NAT'ing. Their router will just become a "bridge", and offer no services. All security, DHCP, DNS, config, etc will ultimately rest with your own router, in the same way it did with ADSL for example.

I have done this type of config on corporate networks too, especially with VC units, and have never had an issue.
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oh christ, yuck.
 
h00va said:
Yes, they will do custom config, however I wanted to control the port forwarding myself. Their solution was to forward all ports to my router, and then I can control the port forwarding on my own router router, without constantly involving them. I want to do it for testing various systems, devices, and possibly CCTV too. Effectively you end up port forwarding twice, or double NAT'ing. Their router will just become a "bridge", and offer no services. All security, DHCP, DNS, config, etc will ultimately rest with your own router, in the same way it did with ADSL for example.

I have done this type of config on corporate networks too, especially with VC units, and have never had an issue.
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Pick a different ISP
 
One wonders exactly what the point of the Mikrotik is in that case, if they are prepared to "bridge it out".
 
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