VW UP! Move - hijack risk?

stroller said:
Whilst a particular brand of car has a risk of hijack, one must also consider your place of residence.
Should you reside in a rural town away from a metropolitan crime infested shyte hole, the hijack element would have little weight in a buying decision.
Having said that: I would rather have a Swift 1.2GL (which I have) as a runaround than an UP.

Perhaps someone on this forum can enlighten us plebs as to a premium loading on the high risk hijacking vehicles?
What is the insurance installment loading on a Vivo compared to a Tata (or something similar), assuming a similar purchase price.
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That is probably highly dependent op your own profile. I paid R350 for my wife's previous Polo, compared to R450 for the Up!. At the same time I had a colleague that got a premium of R750 on her Polo at the same time, and her's was without excess waivers and rental added.
 
Concerning insurance.

Is a hijack factor of a particular brand a consideration in the cost of a insurance premium if I live in Bethlehem?
 
Nerfherder said:
At least you wont pay 160k for a Citi. There are Citi's with 2l engines. The UP would never be able to hold an engine like that.
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Wrong again. There never was a officially sanction 2L Citi. You may be confusing the last Gen Polo 2L with 85kw. Either way your argument is not making much sense.

If you don't like the Up! that is fine but saying it is better than Brio and the Citi is bulldust man.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Brio is better???? 0.o How about the fact that the Brio just has ABS, while the VW Up has ESP? In that class of car it's unheard of. Do you have any idea of what a lifesaver that ESP is? Ever watched any safety videos? Do you realise that you cannot sell a car in Europe without ESP, it's regarded to be that important to safety?
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Honestly in a car that size I don't see the point. If you are taking a car like that to the speeds that it would make a difference then you are taking a chance anyway.
 
Nerfherder said:
At least you wont pay 160k for a Citi. There are Citi's with 2l engines. The UP would never be able to hold an engine like that.
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Why would you want a 2.0 fuel guzzler engine in a mini city car? That's not the purpose of these small type of cars.
 
FiestaST said:
Wrong again. There never was a officially sanction 2L Citi. You may be confusing the last Gen Polo 2L with 85kw. Either way your argument is not making much sense.

If you don't like the Up! that is fine but saying it is better than Brio and the Citi is bulldust man.
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There are plenty on the road, yes they are custom - anyway I hate the citi as well. Would never own either, if you forced me to own one I'd take the Mk1 retro edition that they released a while back over the UP!

Yes its a matter of opinion. I don't like it, I also wouldn't own a Brio. Would take a 2nd hand Jazz over a brand new Brio. However if someone is insisting on a new car and is looking at the range then I'm going to advise them to take the Honda over the VW..... as someone who has driven them both.
 
Nerfherder said:
Honestly in a car that size I don't see the point. If you are taking a car like that to the speeds that it would make a difference then you are taking a chance anyway.
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Esp isn't only for very high speeds. The poo can hit the fan very quickly even at lower speeds. And most of these small cars are capable of speeds in excess of 120km/h.
 
Nerfherder said:
Honestly in a car that size I don't see the point. If you are taking a car like that to the speeds that it would make a difference then you are taking a chance anyway.
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We seem to forget that even modest speeds below 100km/h are more than enough to spin out if one wheel hits a puddle or patch of water while the other wheel doesn't. Same goes for an emergency avoidance: don't you want your little car to save your life, or do you want to meet the guardrail?
 
Cr419 said:
Why would you want a 2.0 fuel guzzler engine in a mini city car? That's not the purpose of these small type of cars.
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The comment was purely a comment on build quality. Ug.. can't believe i'm actually arguing that a Citi has any kind of build quality.

Putting a 2l in a Citi is a retarded thing to do... just like owning an Uno turbo. Nevertheless it was done and was a functional car.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
We seem to forget that even modest speeds below 100km/h are more than enough to spin out if one wheel hits a puddle or patch of water while the other wheel doesn't. Same goes for an emergency avoidance: don't you want your little car to save your life, or do you want to meet the guardrail?
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I wouldn't go 100 in these cars.

Whats the point of breaking nicely and then the bakkie behind you slams in to the back of you ?

EDIT: Another thing that worried me about the UP is that you feel like you are driving the car from the back seat.
 
Nerfherder said:
I wouldn't go 100 in these cars.

Whats the point of breaking nicely and then the bakkie behind you slams in to the back of you ?

EDIT: Another thing that worried me about the UP is that you feel like you are driving the car from the back seat.
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You'd be surprised how very easily these cars can go over 100.
 
Nerfherder said:
Whats the point of breaking nicely and then the bakkie behind you slams in to the back of you ?
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ESP doesn't increase braking strength: it primarily keeps the car pointed in a straight line and travelling in the driver's intended direction of travel (as judged by the steering wheel angle), braking individual wheels as required to pull the car back into direction. So that should actually prevent that bakkie behind you from slamming into you, because you'll still be moving forward under control and not spun out in the middle of the road.
 
The only known issue with the UP! & a concern for our climate is the glass tailgate. This has been discussed in detail in a number of other threads. We can discuss it here as well.
 
FiestaST said:
The only known issue with the UP! & a concern for our climate is the glass tailgate. This has been discussed in detail in a number of other threads. We can discuss it here as well.
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I missed this, why is this a concern?
 
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