W@P's Solar System

[Speedster]

I assumed that the measurement was on the circuit.

It's on the whole house

 

[W@P]

It's on the whole house

Correct, it's an Efergy meter that monitors the whole house.

 

[W@P]

Right, so the breaker labeled as "Geyser" was switched off yesterday at 09:00. And still the spikes are there.
I assume the timer is doing its thing on another circuit for something else cause clearly the geyser is still working as normal. Will get the sparky that installed the timer and the Inverter to correct it.

 

[SauRoNZA]

As some of you know I have been battling to figure out what causes the spikes in my father's electrical usage throughout the day and night. He has 2 geysers, one switched off permanently, water is always cold so I know for a fact it's OFF! And the other geyser on a timer. I have a suspicion from the timer was installed that it's either not setup up correctly or it's faulty or something.

The geyser with the timer is set up to turn on at 06:00 and not sure at what time it must turn off. Then it turns on again at around 15:00, also not sure for how long.

This is what a normal day at his place looks like with the domestic present etc.
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There should only be a spike around 06:00 and around 15:00. Not al these 4kW spikes in between.

He went away this last weekend so i have 2 days data with no one at home. This is what it looks like.
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So i figured out that the time frame between the peaks with the red arrows are 6 hours. I will eat my shoe and sh1te on Amber Heards bed if its not the geyser timer fscking around.

What do you think?

If it’s remaining on those spikes would be normal every time the domestic uses a large quantity of water.

Maybe she’s using hot water for things that could be done with cold water and doesn’t know any better?

 

[Speedster]

If it’s remaining on those spikes would be normal every time the domestic uses a large quantity of water.

Maybe she’s using hot water for things that could be done with cold water and doesn’t know any better?

It's standing losses being recovered

 

[SauRoNZA]

It's standing losses being recovered

Sure but those are amplified by cold water feeding in when a large enough quantity is used

Fill the sink and my geyser immediately spikes.

On days my domestic isn’t here by geyser hardly triggers through the day.

 

[wingnut771]

If it’s remaining on those spikes would be normal every time the domestic uses a large quantity of water.

Maybe she’s using hot water for things that could be done with cold water and doesn’t know any better?

"He went away this last weekend so i have 2 days data with no one at home."

 

[W@P]

If it’s remaining on those spikes would be normal every time the domestic uses a large quantity of water.

Maybe she’s using hot water for things that could be done with cold water and doesn’t know any better?

Yes, I assume it's every time they open the tap. My domestic also only use the hot water side on the mixers. Fsck knows why?

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Yes, I assume it's every time they open the tap. My domestic also only use the hot water side on the mixers. Fsck knows why?

There's no need for them to use hot water at all if you have a dishwasher and washing machine.

We told our domestic that dishes and clothes should only be done after 10, so we can use PV rather than grid/battery. If it's cloudy/rainy then just one of those things...

 

[Hd7]

Right, so the breaker labeled as "Geyser" was switched off yesterday at 09:00. And still the spikes are there.
I assume the timer is doing its thing on another circuit for something else cause clearly the geyser is still working as normal. Will get the sparky that installed the timer and the Inverter to correct it.


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Urrrghh so the last sparky put the geyser on a different breaker it would appear. If i were you i would check each cb, individually - and hope that you don't have a 4000w element pushing a 20a breaker to the max. Either way, process of elimination will get this solved for you now

 

[W@P]

So i have 2 x 200L geysers. That is connected to a heat pump and i guess they are connected in series. I do not use the heat pump at all. It is switched off. When i bought the place the heat pump was there. But the water could never really get to the desired temps. So i turned it off and am using the geysers with their elements. Don't know if the heat pump is too light weight for 400L water. My neighbour has the same setup and they also don't use the heat pump.

I found these readings from the CBI App for the Astute timers that the geysers are on. Can these readings be trusted? If they are correct it means that the one geyser is doing all the hard work and the other one just kicks in now and then?






I just noticed that my consumption is higher than normal for this time of day. And i assume its both geysers running flat out. I had 3 people take a bath last night and this morning i had no hot water as my geysers only run from 13:00 to 16:00. And then the one geyser runs 06:00 till 06:20 now in winter.

 

[furpile]

So i have 2 x 200L geysers. That is connected to a heat pump and i guess they are connected in series. I do not use the heat pump at all. It is switched off. When i bought the place the heat pump was there. But the water could never really get to the desired temps. So i turned it off and am using the geysers with their elements. Don't know if the heat pump is too light weight for 400L water. My neighbour has the same setup and they also don't use the heat pump.

I found these readings from the CBI App for the Astute timers that the geysers are on. Can these readings be trusted? If they are correct it means that the one geyser is doing all the hard work and the other one just kicks in now and then?


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I just noticed that my consumption is higher than normal for this time of day. And i assume its both geysers running flat out. I had 3 people take a bath last night and this morning i had no hot water as my geysers only run from 13:00 to 16:00. And then the one geyser runs 06:00 till 06:20 now in winter.

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If the 2 geysers are in series this makes sense. The first heater is doing most of the work heating up the water. The second geyser gets hot water in so it doesn't have to heat it again, apart from the bit of cold water in the pipe in between the 2 geysers. The second geyser will have to turn on to recover standing losses though, which can be reduced with a geyser blanket. Also if you use a lot of water at once (like 3 baths in a row) the temperature in the first geyser will drop enough that the second geyser gets colder water in and then has to start heating that as well.

You say you had no hot water in the morning, was it cold like the cold tap or just luke warm? To use up the hot water from 2 geysers is a lot of water.

 

[W@P]

If the 2 geysers are in series this makes sense. The first heater is doing most of the work heating up the water. The second geyser gets hot water in so it doesn't have to heat it again, apart from the bit of cold water in the pipe in between the 2 geysers. The second geyser will have to turn on to recover standing losses though, which can be reduced with a geyser blanket. Also if you use a lot of water at once (like 3 baths in a row) the temperature in the first geyser will drop enough that the second geyser gets colder water in and then has to start heating that as well.

You say you had no hot water in the morning, was it cold like the cold tap or just luke warm? To use up the hot water from 2 geysers is a lot of water.

It was lukewarm. Yea i donno how much water they used last night. It was out of my normal routine. I live alone but last night there were 3 girls taking a bath. SO very much out of my routine use of hot water.

 

[furpile]

It was lukewarm. Yea i donno how much water they used last night. It was out of my normal routine. I live alone but last night there were 3 girls taking a bath. SO very much out of my routine use of hot water.

Yeah they probably used enough that the first geyser started supplying colder water to the second geyser which lowered it's temperature too much.

If you want to manage this better you could test leaving the second geyser on the whole time. It should normally just turn on to recover standing losses, but when you use too much it will then turn on to heat up the lukewarm water coming from geyser 1. See if this increases your normal usage over a few weeks to determine if it is worth doing?

 

[W@P]

Before I added the 06:00 - 06:20 time slot to the one geyser the water wasn't warm enough with the winter mornings coming. So I just selected 1 of the geysers on the app and added the time slot to turn it on. That 20 minutes makes a moer of difference in the temps. And I see now that I added that time slot to the geyser that's already doing most of the work.

 

[SauRoNZA]

It was lukewarm. Yea i donno how much water they used last night. It was out of my normal routine. I live alone but last night there were 3 girls taking a bath. SO very much out of my routine use of hot water.

Did you do penis still work this morning?

 

[W@P]

Did you do penis still work this morning?

For some other reason, single dads attract single moms. You can go from having a 2 door sports car parked in the garage to a V-Class or VW Caravelle in no time at all. Suddenly having 4 kids fscking around the house. Not that it happened to me.

We just friends though. Won't get locked down again.

 

[MattRoy]

For some other reason, single dads attract single moms. You can go from having a 2 door sports car parked in the garage to a V-Class or VW Caravelle in no time at all. Suddenly having 4 kids fscking around the house. Not that it happened to me.

We just friends though. Won't get locked down again.

I hope that those four kids are using protection.

 

[W@P]

I have a ton of these ugly mofos making nests and a mess in my gutters and on the roofs. They multiply like rabbits.


So I send my garden engineer up the roof every month to clean all the gutters and remove any nests and eggs. Today I tuned him to take his window washing squeegee and wash all the panels as well. His feedback is that they were filthy with the dust and bird poop.

They are now sparkling clean again. He will make this part of his roof cleaning routine from now on.

 

[1am7h30n3]

So I send my garden engineer up the roof every month to clean all the gutters and remove any nests and eggs. Today I tuned him to take his window washing squeegee and wash all the panels as well. His feedback is that they were filthy with the dust and bird poop.

They are now sparkling clean again. He will make this part of his roof cleaning routine from now on.

Would be very interested to hear how much difference cleaning the panels made to production.