Warning: Win 8 driver compatibility

[HavocXphere]

Doesn't seem to like punkbuster either. Got kicked for #9005, #125116, #131125, #131131, #131136. Fixed them all in turn except the last one. Oh well...no CoD4 for me until I'm back to Win 7.

Oh and Win 8 wiped *all* of my windows settings. Thankfully a sys restore got back most of it. Introduced a bunch of new broken stuff though.

Getting sick of this BS.

 

[Pooky]

I am using windows 8, have had no problems with it at all.

 

[killadoob]

Doesn't seem to like punkbuster either. Got kicked for #9005, #125116, #131125, #131131, #131136. Fixed them all in turn except the last one. Oh well...no CoD4 for me until I'm back to Win 7.

Oh and Win 8 wiped *all* of my windows settings. Thankfully a sys restore got back most of it. Introduced a bunch of new broken stuff though.

Getting sick of this BS.

PB won't officially work with windows until it is launched, gaming for now is a no go for most people.

Bf3 won't run at all. Not long until we can rock windows 8 as our main OS

 

[HavocXphere]

PB won't officially work with windows until it is launched, gaming for now is a no go for most people.

Bf3 won't run at all. Not long until we can rock windows 8 as our main OS

Starting to realize that too. Its weird: When I installed Win 8 I had that mindset about beta software etc. But everything worked fine so I got over that. No everything is just falling apart all of a sudden. Even the font of this text I'm typing looks pixelated. Tried switching cleartype back on...no joy.

 

[CataclysmZA]

NAG - Wesley:
What you wrote shows only benefits for MS, nothing for users. I think impatient users are going to pay again for this transition. This is from history of MS Windows:
- Windows for Workgroups - the first usable version of Windows
- Win 95 big pain due to transition to 32 bit, Win98 SE first workable
- Win NT - big plans for multitasking kernel and object oriented GUI (abandoned before launch), Win 2000 barely workable, Win XP the best due to compromise between kernel security and practicability
- Vista I think you remember it, Win 7 workable

Learn from history, wait and see...

What is your point exactly? I'd love to see you praise XP in its native format - squeaky clean, no service packs or updates whatsoever - the XP that everyone lambasted because driver support just wasn't there yet and security was a major issue, as well as general stability. I know a good ten or so people who tried XP for around six months and moved back to Win 98 while things were sorted out. It wasn't always the golden OS people paint it to be today.

I think Windows 8 is a good step in the right direction for Microsoft if they want to emulate Apple's success. Having an ecosystem with a GUI that translates well from the desktop to the mobile form factor is an important requirement. Driver support is an issue only because its a different kernel and it works for most users testing it out. Once the launch is done, we'll see all the manufacturers and third-party hardware providers fixing the issues with their peripherals.

Also, it has persuaded me to consider Windows Phone as my next handset. Maybe not 8.0 because the 7.8 devices will be dirt cheap pretty soon, but I'm definitely moving in that direction. Tablet-wise I'm not considering Win 8 because iOS and Android are superior choices at all price points at the moment.

 

[NomNom]

What advantages are there for gamers who use Windows 8?

 

[CataclysmZA]

Windows 8 Gaming Performance

Nothing much in the way of improved framerates, but there's definitely a stability boost in there somewhere. I'm still on the Consumer Preview but moving to Pro as soon as my ADSL finally downloads the damn ISO. 384K is just abysmal.

 

[NomNom]

Windows 8 Gaming Performance

Nothing much in the way of improved framerates, but there's definitely a stability boost in there somewhere. I'm still on the Consumer Preview but moving to Pro as soon as my ADSL finally downloads the damn ISO. 384K is just abysmal.

Cool thanks, looks like there is no real reason to upgrade afterall.

 

[sajunky]

I think Windows 8 is a good step in the right direction for Microsoft if they want to emulate Apple's success. Having an ecosystem with a GUI that translates well from the desktop to the mobile form factor is an important requirement.

Once again you talk about benefits for Microsoft. I don't see benefits for users. You didn't read my post:

What you wrote shows only benefits for MS, nothing for users. I think impatient users are going to pay again for this transition.

 

[CataclysmZA]

I'd like to know how you perceive that the OS doesn't benefit users. On the desktop there's certainly a little disparity between how the OS works on tablets which is arguably better and more fluid, but I see a lot of benefits for business users and also for those who want to be more productive with less distractions. And I'm not arguing here, I'm genuinely interested in why people don't like it.

 

[HavocXphere]

I'd like to know how you perceive that the OS doesn't benefit users. On the desktop there's certainly a little disparity between how the OS works on tablets which is arguably better and more fluid, but I see a lot of benefits for business users and also for those who want to be more productive with less distractions.

I think what he means is what motivation is there for moving from Win7->Win8.

And I'm not arguing here, I'm genuinely interested in why people don't like it.

Start button fiasco.

Useless charm thing which gets in the way when doing something on the right of the screen.

Zilch integration between apps & applications (They even have different taskbars).

Search function entirely broken. Used to be WinKey - "Control panel" - enter. Now they split apps, docs and settings.

Apps version of things (e.g. chrome/IExplore) are utterly useless.

Many smaller irritations.

There are nice things (faster boot, speed improvements, awesome taskmanager, troubleshooter that works [omg!]), but the amount of crap/broken things they added is just insane. If they had just skipped all the tablet crap that is entirely unsuited for a desktop then it would have been the most rocking OS ever.

 

[sajunky]

I think what he means is what motivation is there for moving from Win7->Win8.

Yip, that was my question. In particular for desktop users, as tablet Win7 market is still nonexistent.

 

[Adoxographist]

Also there are problems with AMD switchable graphics driver problems, they are non-existant at the moment expect for leshcat's custom solutions. And windows 7 ones aren't compatible.