What about men abuse?

[Thugscub]

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2012/04/12/stand-against-women-abuse

 

[Sherbang]

http://www.manwomanmyth.com/

 

[Ninja'd]

F***ing "Automatically parse links in text" tick boxes. How do they work?

Or maybe even try to copy and paste the story here.

And what about men abuse? :wtf:

 

[ToxicBunny]

I was actually reading a similar article on News24 about this this morning, and it also popped into my head.

Why must we be MORE outraged, and punish people more because they've abused and killed a woman?

 

[Thugscub]

Woman also abuse men in an emotional and psychological way as well as violence. Nothing gets said about it.

 

[Fudzy]

I was actually reading a similar article on News24 about this this morning, and it also popped into my head.

Why must we be MORE outraged, and punish people more because they've abused and killed a woman?

How often do you see a story about women abusing men? Hot topic = News people want to read = Rabid readers = Outrage.

 

[Nick333]

I was actually reading a similar article on News24 about this this morning, and it also popped into my head.

Why must we be MORE outraged, and punish people more because they've abused and killed a woman?

Well, because women are generally smaller and weaker. I do think the whole "you never lay your hands on a women" thing has become overblown.

I always think of that De Niro movie where he's talking to his bitter and twisted ex wife and she says "You didn't have to be a wife beater" and he replies "Yeah well, you didn't have to be such a fccking bitch".

It makes me think of my ex who used to accuse me of verbal abuse. Her idea of verbal abuse was when a man said "fcck off you horrible, nasty minded, soul destroying, fccked up cnnt", after enduring literally hours of what can only be categorised as verbal abuse.

She tell me that abuse wasn't just physical and that breaking down someones self-esteem was abuse. :wtf: Ja, no shyte? Does that work both ways?

 

[Fudzy]

Woman also abuse men in an emotional and psychological way as well as violence. Nothing gets said about it.

I think more abused men should speak out, I'd imagine a lot of guys don't have the egos capable of admitting this in public.

 

[darkevil]

I think more abused men should speak out, I'd imagine a lot of guys don't have the egos capable of admitting this in public.

Men are victims of abuse at the hands of women, as much as 50% of the time, and no one is talking about it. Men need acknowledgment and support to overcome the abuse they endure, but most are left to 'go it alone.
No support base or very little at that.

As they say..big boys dont cry.

 

[Thugscub]

I lived with it for 3 years. It was a nightmare.

 

[Apache]

I lived with it for 3 years. It was a nightmare.

Physical or mental/emotional?

I would say its harder with mental/emotional cause you can't defend yourself as easily as with physical abuse.

 

[Picard]

I thought the general advise for men is to, as someone on this forum famously said, "kick her ina panty" and leave.

 

[USZA]

Women are diabolical; they know that they can't physically harm men so they inflict an even worse pain on them i.e. emotionally abuse them. This is even worse than any physical abuse that a man might suffer plus, it leaves the kind of scars that only a professional can fix.

 

[Fudzy]

Women are diabolical; they know that they can't physically harm men so they inflict an even worse pain on them i.e. emotionally abuse them. This is even worse than any physical abuse that a man might suffer plus, it leaves the kind of scars that only a professional can fix.

Agreed but by the same token, people wonder why abused women don't leave their abusive partners (He loves me, he just gets upset sometimes, I walked into the door etc etc) the same applies to men too. It's up to the abused person to make the decision to realise they are in a hostile environment and leave.

 

[USZA]

Agreed but by the same token, people wonder why abused women don't leave their abusive partners (He loves me, he just gets upset sometimes, I walked into the door etc etc) the same applies to men too. It's up to the abused person to make the decision to realise they are in a hostile environment and leave.

Financial dependence?

A hope that things are going to turn out right? Basically in denial at this stage.

Uncertainty of what lies beyond because there's a sense of security in a familiar situation, even if the situation isn't ideal.

PS: I got out of an abusive relationship about 3 years ago. Today still, I marvel at how I was able to make it out on my own. I was in that stage where I couldn't imagine what lies beyond.

 

[Nick333]

Women are diabolical; they know that they can't physically harm men so they inflict an even worse pain on them i.e. emotionally abuse them. This is even worse than any physical abuse that a man might suffer plus, it leaves the kind of scars that only a professional can fix.

You're right but let's not generalise too much. There is the image of men as being strong and unemotional that I think makes some women think we're just convenient punching bags. We probably play into that by not being very good at expressing our emotions.
I think the anti-abuse against movement reinforces dated stereotypes of men as big, strong, unemotional brutes and women as defenseless and weak. It is certainly never ok to physically attack someone but it's also actually not ok to verbally attack someone. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will leave scars. It's important to remember, that while there are definitely cases of weak women being horrendously abused, just because a woman has a black eye doesn't mean she isn't a truly horrible biatch.

It might make me sound like a new-age, hippy, wuss bag but I think the world will only begin to improve when we all start to take at least as much responsibility for our words as we do for our actions.

I just don't buy that physical violence is the absolute worst thing in every case. It's just more obviously bad.

 

[USZA]

You're right but let's not generalise too much. There is the image of men as being strong and unemotional that I think makes some women think we're just convenient punching bags. . .

I didn't mean to generalise about women being diabolical; just wanted to point out how calculating women can be. And yes, that image of men being strong and unemotional is the exact stereotype that I was getting at.

. . . I think the world will only begin to improve when we all start to take at least as much responsibility for our words as we do for our actions.

I couldn't agree with you more on this point; it all comes down to mutual respect, even before uttering a word. In fact, don't say anything that you're going to have to explain later or that you might regret later; prevention is better than cure so think about what you want to say before saying it.

I just don't buy that physical violence is the absolute worst thing in every case. It's just more obviously bad.

It's perceived as bad because it's more obvious. Nobody can gauge someone else's emotional state, unless they're at breaking point.

 

[Thugscub]

Physical or mental/emotional?

I would say its harder with mental/emotional cause you can't defend yourself as easily as with physical abuse.

It was emotional and mental abuse.

 

[Thugscub]

I thought the general advise for men is to, as someone on this forum famously said, "kick her ina panty" and leave.

I did eventually, she kept coming back. I have not got a job or I have no place to stay or an excuse of sorts. I have too much of a soft heart. So I was to be blamed.

 

[Mila]

>evil Laugh<

I love being called Diabolical... :twisted:

seriously though

physical violence - My mother taught me that if you want to dish out you want to make sure you can take it or run extremely fast..

Emotional.. Is it not the same thing? Does men not have places to get support?
Women do this much better than men sometimes.. Wommiz are evil Biatches.