What would you build

R15k for a PC?

Take that money and go to a tropical island in the Indian Ocean with your wife/girlfriend.
 
Q6600
4 gig transend ddr 2 800 memory
22" samsung lcd
150 gig raptor drive
500gb hdd for storage
4870 ati vga card
dvd writer with lightscribe
aerocool 3t extreme
asus p5q mobo
antec 550w PSU
 
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killadoob said:
Q6600
4 gig transend ddr 2 800 memory
22" samsung lcd
150 gig raptor drive
500gb hdd for storage
4870 ati vga card
dvd writer with lightscribe
aerocool 3t extreme
asus p5q mobo
antec 550w PSU
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Can't go wrong with that rig
 
killadoob said:
Q6600
4 gig transend ddr 2 800 memory
22" samsung lcd
150 gig raptor drive
500gb hdd for storage
4870 ati vga card
dvd writer with lightscribe
aerocool 3t extreme
asus p5q mobo
antec 550w PSU
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Save the money on the Raptor and go for the new gen WD6400AAKS, they are approaching the performance of those older raptors and in some cases faster.

Put the extra into a faster Quad of the newer 45nm Gen Q9300 / Q9550
else since it's a gaming rig you are looking for you could consider the E8500, they're below 2k now. Quad probably more future proof as more developers multithread their games and apps though.

Now just got to get the local prices of the Q9550 to follow the overseas drops :D
Going to keep nagging about this until it happens!

Debbie2 said:
A 15k tower of cheese!
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Now this! And I'm so hungry that the acid's going to kill me if I don't go and eat NOW.:D
 
You have not worked with a raptor im assuming so you think because its data transfer is slower than that 640gb drive. This does not mean its a faster drive or anywhere near the performance of a raptor.

Seek time is so much faster on a raptor that your entire system runs 20-30% faster when using a raptor. Programs open twice as fast on raptor

So sure your transfer rates will be a bit slower but i prefer have a fast responsive hdd that makes windows and programs run like a dream. I would never in my life ever own anything but a raptor, until such times as SSD drives become mainstream.

SSD drives are slower when transferring data than a 250gb sata drive but they will run windows nearly 50% faster than other drive on the market.
 
rather get two 4870X2's in Crossfire mode with a XEON
 
Since no screen is required, go nuts on some uber kit.

I'd get 2x 74Gb Raptors, for RAID performance. Also, grab a decent server case, like the Antec Twelve Hundred. Then, drop in an ATI 4870 and feed the lots with a Corsair TX750W PSU, or the Enermax Galaxy 850W. Why go for the lower level Q6600, when the Q9450 beckons? And pair that with 2x2Gb DDR3-1066. *Poof* goes 15K.
 
or you can do this:

upgrade to a 4870, and a Q6600 cpu
Get a 42" FullHD LCD Screen

Exactly R15000.

(I just need to upgrade to a 4870, heh..)
 
killadoob said:
You have not worked with a raptor im assuming so you think because its data transfer is slower than that 640gb drive. This does not mean its a faster drive or anywhere near the performance of a raptor.

Seek time is so much faster on a raptor that your entire system runs 20-30% faster when using a raptor. Programs open twice as fast on raptor

So sure your transfer rates will be a bit slower but i prefer have a fast responsive hdd that makes windows and programs run like a dream. I would never in my life ever own anything but a raptor, until such times as SSD drives become mainstream.

SSD drives are slower when transferring data than a 250gb sata drive but they will run windows nearly 50% faster than other drive on the market.
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I'm not disputing individual performance numbers here.
I'm taking an overall view, that for the price, the raptor offers to small a benefit. Hence my statement "they are approaching". It is a cost/benefit call. If I had the money to burn the 300MB Velociraptor may come into the reckoning.

As I said you also have to pick one of the more recent 7200rpm drives, particularly the one I mentioned, those with the newr > 300mb platters. Then you will understand my reasoning.
 
i have the more resent drives, i have a 300 250 and tb drives and they all have seek times over 11ms

let me give you an example:

Lets say i open corel draw, a raptor will open it twice as fast as any other 7200rpm drive. so i am not sure when you say they offer a small benefit what you mean. A hdd that opens programs twice as fast as any other 7200 hdd has major benefits and warrants the price.

I have the 300 gig velocirapor and before that i had 2 x 74gb raptors in raid. I have another pc in my office with 7200rpm seagate 7200.10 drives i think and when i have to work on that machine you can feel the performance is not there.

people often forget a pc can only work as fast as the hdd, go read some reviews on velociraptors and come back there is a small difference.

The difference is so huge that i cannot wait for SSD drives which are 40-50% faster than raptors, if you have used a raptor before you will understand that SSD are going to make your pc fly.

Its all good and well having a hardcore cpu but having a good cpu with a raptor is called performance because raptor drives are the fastest hdd's on the market
 
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killadoob said:
i have the more resent drives, i have a 300 250 and tb drives and they all have seek times over 11ms

let me give you an example:

Lets say i open corel draw, a raptor will open it twice as fast as any other 7200rpm drive. so i am not sure when you say they offer a small benefit what you mean. A hdd that opens programs twice as fast as any other 7200 hdd has major benefits and warrants the price.

I have the 300 gig velocirapor and before that i had 2 x 74gb raptors in raid. I have another pc in my office with 7200rpm seagate 7200.10 drives i think and when i have to work on that machine you can feel the performance is not there.

people often forget a pc can only work as fast as the hdd, go read some reviews on velociraptors and come back there is a small difference.

The difference is so huge that i cannot wait for SSD drives which are 40-50% faster than raptors, if you have used a raptor before you will understand that SSD are going to make your pc fly.

Its all good and well having a hardcore cpu but having a good cpu with a raptor is called performance because raptor drives are the fastest hdd's on the market
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***** just got logged out and lost evything I was typing.
Anyway this is getting way OT, but I am willing to take it up in another thread if you so wish.
I do however stand by my assertion that the slower RPM WD6400AAKS would be a better choice in this scenario for reasons I have already stated.
 
Killadoob, if you have not already visited this site I suggest you do so to get a better understanding of disk performance.

http://www.storagereview.com/

Whilst I have no personal experience with the raptor line of disks I have worked with many 10 and 15K scsi's in numerous scenarios, and realise the benefits of fast seek times in a number of scenarios. They are just not the whole picture.:)
 
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