What's for supper - Second Course

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And the bacon jam while you're at it. I've never heard of that.

The whole thing looks fab btw bwana.

I've tried to make it and failed Horribly.

Was more like ****ty Bovril.

But then again I made it with no idea what it should taste like.

So hoping bwana is buying it somewhere as I'd like to try it again.


I have a recipe for it on an American style 3 cheese grilled sandwich and it worked well enough in combination.
 
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**** I didn't think to mention I cook double portions most meals. . That's a 2 night meal and extra sauce to freeze for side dishes. Oh my I'm so sorry.

My pan is a Volcano braai/stove or fire pan and it's Huge. I have to use both plates on the front of the stove to cook in it. Comes in handy for bulk cooking.

The pot in the back with the sauce is a standard 28cm round pot, my Volcano must be close to 45/50cm wide. Never measured before but it's a brilliant pot. ImageUploadedByMyBroadband1465360684.627394.jpg
 
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I've tried to make it and failed Horribly.

Was more like ****ty Bovril.

But then again I made it with no idea what it should taste like.

So hoping bwana is buying it somewhere as I'd like to try it again.


I have a recipe for it on an American style 3 cheese grilled sandwich and it worked well enough in combination.

Mine tasted pretty good. A little too sweet, but that's on me seeing as I put in too much maple syrup. Went really well with the burger, that's for sure.

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Mine tasted pretty good. A little too sweet, but that's on me seeing as I put in too much maple syrup. Went really well with the burger, that's for sure.

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Most recipes that I find are usually too sweet and most likely from the US. I remember when I made corndogs and had to half the sugar the first time an ended up taking out more the next time I made them.
 
Most recipes that I find are usually too sweet and most likely from the US. I remember when I made corndogs and had to half the sugar the first time an ended up taking out more the next time I made them.
True.. The amount of sugar in a lot of bbq sauce is insane. Then there's those recipes which have sugar and honey and/or maple syrup.. Gross.
 
True.. The amount of sugar in a lot of bbq sauce is insane. Then there's those recipes which have sugar and honey and/or maple syrup.. Gross.

BBQ sauce needs to be sweet - it's the sugar in them that caramelises to gives you that sticky bbq goodness.
 
BBQ sauce needs to be sweet - it's the sugar in them that caramelises to gives you that sticky bbq goodness.
There are other ways to get caramelisation, but even if that weren't true, you don't need 5 buckets of sugar. I
 
There are other ways to get caramelisation, but even if that weren't true, you don't need 5 buckets of sugar. I

I'd be interested in learning about caramelisation without sugars especially when it comes to cooking barbecue.
 
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I'd be interested in learning about caramelisation without sugars especially when it comes to cooking barbecue.

The Maillard reaction is a type of caramelisation, how much extra sugar are you adding to your steaks?

Sure, when it comes to BBQ and low-temp cooking, caramelisation is less pronounced, but it's still there and can be enhanced using things other than sugar in rubs and so on.

But in any case, my original point is that some recipes use way too much sugar, that amount isn't necessary for a bit of sweetness and stickiness.
 
The Maillard reaction is a type of caramelisation, how much extra sugar are you adding to your steaks?

Sure, when it comes to BBQ and low-temp cooking, caramelisation is less pronounced, but it's still there and can be enhanced using things other than sugar in rubs and so on.

But in any case, my original point is that some recipes use way too much sugar, that amount isn't necessary for a bit of sweetness and stickiness.

Reason I +1 on bwana's post is hoping you had a way/technique/tip/trick of getting nice sweet and sticky chicken wings without the added sugar. I'm a sucker for those but their macros are not keto friendly at all.

I'm experimenting with stuff like Sucralose myself at the moment but for totally different results and end products.
 
Reason I +1 on bwana's post is hoping you had a way/technique/tip/trick of getting nice sweet and sticky chicken wings without the added sugar. I'm a sucker for those but their macros are not keto friendly at all.

I'm experimenting with stuff like Sucralose myself at the moment but for totally different results and end products.

It depends on how you like them.. I can get them sufficiently sweet and sticky using some tomato sauce and caramelised onions (again, no extra sugar needed) into the base of the sauce. They've got plenty of natural sugar in them and you can work them into your macros.

I don't really have a sweet tooth, but I make them for people who like sweet stuff and they seem to like them, but of course YMMV.
 
It depends on how you like them.. I can get them sufficiently sweet and sticky using some tomato sauce and caramelised onions (again, no extra sugar needed) into the base of the sauce. They've got plenty of natural sugar in them and you can work them into your macros.

I don't really have a sweet tooth, but I make them for people who like sweet stuff and they seem to like them, but of course YMMV.

I will obviosuly have to read up more about it. Perhaps experiment with making my own tomato sauce marinade with puree or the likes.
 
What about a good quality balsamic? I get some lovely sweetness out of balsamic when I caramelized onions.
 
It depends on how you like them.. I can get them sufficiently sweet and sticky using some tomato sauce and caramelised onions (again, no extra sugar needed) into the base of the sauce. They've got plenty of natural sugar in them and you can work them into your macros.

I don't really have a sweet tooth, but I make them for people who like sweet stuff and they seem to like them, but of course YMMV.
Agreed, red onion caramelized low and slow will add great sweetness and flavor. Then if you want BBQ sauce add Tomato Sauce, Oyster Sauce and Soy Sauce to make a basic sauce. Then you can add things like garlic, herbs or smoked paprika for that smokey note.
 
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