Whatsapp

[Burfam]

Hi all.

Whatsapp is a awesome IM, I personally feel it's better than Blackberry's BBM.
Only problem I find and hear many others complain about, is the burden it places on your Battery!
Some people will delete and reinstall the Whatsapp application daily, just to avoid the battery drain.
I personally did the samething.
Of course I am only talking about Nokia users having this problem.
Once I started getting tired of deleting and reinstalling Whatsapp, I looked for another alternative to this problem and found that by activating my APN Control found on all Nokia Smartphones I was able to "Switch" Whatsapp off!
Next problem was, by activating the APN Control this would block all outgoing and incoming data, including MMS.
As most of my office work is mobile, emails and web surfing became a issue, as I would need to deactivate the APN control to surf, and send/recieve emails, thus allowing Whatsapp to log back on!
After studying the way Whatsapp works I was able to figure out just how to "Switch" Whatsapp off without effecting my other Applications.

What I found was,
Whatsapp does not require that the user assign a APN (Access Point) but only tell the Application how to access the internet, either by WIFI or Cellular!
Whatsapp will use any outgoing data connection to access the network, similiar to a parasitic virus.
I'm sure the program designer used to design viruses, lol!
Anyway, the application will try to access the network for 30 seconds after the Whatsapp application is closed, then reconnect using another applications connection like Mail for Exchange!
The answer was rather simple!
I downloaded a program from Nokia Store call Task Manager, allowing me to control the applications and tasks running in the background.
All you need to do is, end task Whatsapp in the prosess window and in the task window, then end your mail for exchange connection.
Keep it off for 35 seconds then swich your Mail for Exchange app back on again.
The Whatsapp application is put into offmode within the 35 seconds, completely inhibiting it.
You can now surf and recieve email like normal without the risk of Whatsapp locking back on automatically!
You will just need to start the Whatsapp appliction again simply be starting it again!
My life as well as my Battery life are happy again!!
Hope this helps some people with the same problem!

 

[albert123]

you say its better than BBM...
so if its better why do some ppl need to reinstall it every day?
if its better why do u need a whole essay to tell people who to 'live with it' ?
its not better since if i send you an mp3 each day on your whatsapp nokia/iphone/samsung it would cost you about R180 (6mb x 30 days @ vodacom rates) if i sent it to my bbm contact he would probably not care how many i send him since it will receive it without him even knowing or having to pay a cent...

i miss how its better than bbm in any way?

 

[karnuffel]

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i miss how its better than bbm in any way?

Well it does trump bbm by accessing your phone book and trying to automatically make some of your contacts available. I use both, who cares which one is better, both does the job well.

 

[Jola]

i miss how its better than bbm in any way?

Well, for starters you can communicate with people using Android phones, Symbian phones, iPhones, etc, etc.

Also, the example you quote uses BIS for data, which does not directly have anything to do with BBM.

There are good reasons why the Blackberry market share is dropping like a stone worldwide - it just does not happen in SA because BIS is cheap, and the mobile ISP's rip other users off with the cost of mobile data.

 

[reactor_sa]

It chows battery because it requires constant connection to the internet. Its less of an issue on smartphones and blackberrys as they already have an always connected approach.

 

[Jola]

Yes, it hasn't been an issue on my Sony Xperia Arc - but on this phone it's really easy to connect / disconnect to the internet. I assume that the same applies to other Android phones.

 

[ebendl]

Nokia's Symbian operating system just wasn't design for something where a data connection is constantly in use. And WhatsApp was probably, as you mentioned, written quite badly. I've always found the different APN settings in Nokia very confusing as well - although I can understand that it is rather flexible.

WhatsApp is great because it is cross-platform, that's about it. It works well enough on iPhones, Androids and BlackBerries. I don't find that it drains my BB's battery quicker than usual. The fact that you have to "limit" it automatically loses major appeal to me - this means that people won't be able to WhatsApp me because they will know that I am not necessarily online. Thus, you have to fall back to SMS. This is one of the reasons why a built-in solution, such as BBM or iMessage will always be popular.

The "phone book scanning" feature is hated by some people and loved by others, so I don't know if it is that great.

 

[sam7606]

I have an N8 and I use a 3rd party task manager called Jbak Taskman to kill/close Whatsapp without disconnecting from the internet. All I do is kill 3 Whatsapp processes and that's it, whatsapp gets closed. The processes to terminate are:
1. LoggerServer_0x2002B306.exe.
2. ProcMgrServer_0x2002B310.exe.
3. Whatsapp.exe.

 

[naasier]

Theres an app called mobi shield. With it you can choose what applications can automatically start up when the phone boots up. What I do if I dont want whatsapp running is just to restart my phone. I only need to do that in rare cases like when my battery is going to die and I dont need an internet connection.
Also, if you dont mind having a slow internet connection then just switch your 3g off. Makes a huge difference with regard to battery life.

 

[Burfam]

People, you seem to be missing the point I'm trying to make!
Albert, one day when you big and you grow out of Social networking, you see that your BBM is outdated!
Whatsapp on BB, is crap, join the big boy, and see what you missing out on!
Besides, your Blackberry life is soon coming to a end!

 

[Elite Override]

I have an N8 and I use a 3rd party task manager called Jbak Taskman to kill/close Whatsapp without disconnecting from the internet. All I do is kill 3 Whatsapp processes and that's it, whatsapp gets closed. The processes to terminate are:
1. LoggerServer_0x2002B306.exe.
2. ProcMgrServer_0x2002B310.exe.
3. Whatsapp.exe.

This.

 

[Viva]

I've used Whatsapp on a Nokia Symbian phone for the past 10 months. I addressed the short battery life issue by switching to 2G. Whatsapp worked really well on my Nokia - and there is no need for complicated hacks. I recently finally made the switch to Android, and Whatsapp works as well as always.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

The problem with killing the process is it defeats the purpose of serving as an SMS replacement. Whatsapp basically needs to always be connected to the internet in order to work as intended - it's the connection to the internet that kills your battery, not the application.

Some people report improved battery performance by setting up their phones in GSM mode only (2G), but that's not a proper solution because it becomes a bottleneck to other applications where you do actually want a fast connection.

Unfortunately it is a problem with current Nokia phones due to the lower capacity batteries, so I don't see it being fixed any time soon.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I've used Whatsapp on a Nokia Symbian phone for the past 10 months. I addressed the short battery life issue by switching to 2G. Whatsapp worked really well on my Nokia - and there is no need for complicated hacks. I recently finally made the switch to Android, and Whatsapp works as well as always.

That creates a bottleneck for other applications where you do actually want high speed, so it's not a proper solution IMO.

 

[Burfam]

Agreed tha by switching to the lower 2G network it does infact better the battery life, but as Mike Hoxbig pointed out, it does become a problem using a slower connection!
Task managers seem the be a better option for now!

 

[blaaislaai]

My nokia 6210 Navigator loves Whatsapp, i can unplug my phone from the charger, chat whole day and it will still be full at 19:00, battery only starts to drop around 20:00. But dont have that phone anymore :-/

 

[ebendl]

People, you seem to be missing the point I'm trying to make!
Albert, one day when you big and you grow out of Social networking, you see that your BBM is outdated!
Whatsapp on BB, is crap, join the big boy, and see what you missing out on!
Besides, your Blackberry life is soon coming to a end!

Uhm, we do? Your first post in a sentance: WhatsApp is awesome as long as you don't need to run it!

 

[Viva]

That creates a bottleneck for other applications where you do actually want high speed, so it's not a proper solution IMO.

Sure. But I have to avoid using much mobile data anyway as the real bottleneck is the data prices

 

[Burfam]

@ebendl
Please go back to my first post, and read it very carefullly!
Whatsapp is a awesome IM, I personally feel it's better than BBM! Read properly!!
I'm not complaining about the Application, I complained about the Battery burden!
Also, the thread was posted to give people who felt the same an idea on how to solve the battery burden!

 

[ebendl]

@ebendl
Please go back to my first post, and read it very carefullly!
Whatsapp is a awesome IM, I personally feel it's better than BBM! Read properly!!
I'm not complaining about the Application, I complained about the Battery burden!
Also, the thread was posted to give people who felt the same an idea on how to solve the battery burden!

Ok, so your point was to illustrate how the battery problem can be resolved, which I agree is a worthwhile topic. Your second reply (which I replied on) was to shoot down BlackBerry users - without any reasons or arguments mentioned, I should add.

I think most people immediately picked up from your original post that WhatsApp and Nokia has a problem: the fact that you can't really run it connected to the network 100% of the time as this kills the battery - hence the rest of the discussion that followed.

Wouldn't your argue that a Blackberry running WhatsApp as well as BBM without any apparent battery problems is a better deal, then? Unless you have a Nokia already and want the best experience - a valid concern.