When is getting replaced by ok? When it is ...

[Herr der Verboten]

When is “getting replaced” seen as okay?


When it’s by:

1. Other people – natural/living: because of skill, age, etc.
2. Technological advancement – automation, robotics: like factory automation.
3. LLMs (AI) – process simplification, generative: generative art, personal assistance, basic related tasks.

It seems people are totally fine with 1 and 2, but the moment 3 comes into play they lose their minds like with the plastic-straws-level hysteria and somewhat try to apply shaming (e.g. oh lord they used generative tools and must make a scene about it).

Which is getting pretty tiresome lately, because it’s just turning into another round of fashionable panic.

 

[OnlyOneKenobi]

Well, we all know hatred of AI is alive and well.

As far as getting replaced. Meh. Just be irreplaceable.

 

[RedViking]

That title though....

 

[Sinbad]

Well, we all know hatred of AI is alive and well.

As far as getting replaced. Meh. Just be irreplaceable.

AI has **** all to redeem it.

While asking whether we could, we neglected to consider whether we should.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

That title though....

It is a trap for that other user and that thread

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Well, we all know hatred of AI is alive and well.

As far as getting replaced. Meh. Just be irreplaceable.

Crying about it is laughable at best. Where is the crying at robotic automation or humans replacing humans, well unless its race right. Then its not right.

 

[B-1]

Technology advancements dont care about the complaints and shaming it just does its thing and whomever uses it the best advances and leaves the rest behind.
You are only shooting yourself in the foot if you don't adapt and its not nice to have to go out of that comfort zone you maybe worked your whole life to achieve but you either do it early or you play catch up later.

 

[saor]

Which is getting pretty tiresome lately, because it’s just turning into another round of fashionable panic.

When has anyone ever been ok with their jobs being taken? Pretty sure when the automation boom started an entire industry bemoaned the loss of their jobs.

Obviously I can't ignore AI now that it's here, but personally I wish it would **** off and die already. I feel sometimes like we're going down this path to a future where humans are just prompt machines for AI systems - we don't write our own code, don't design our parts, don't create our own art or music - especially not in competitive industries where employing a human would be stupid when you can get cheaper, harder working AI systems to churn out data for you.

 

[saor]

Crying about it is laughable at best. Where is the crying at robotic automation or humans replacing humans, well unless its race right. Then its not right.

In both instances you could resolve to upskill yourself - either do to more meaningful work that can't be automated or to compete with other humans operating more or less on the same neurological hardware as you. How do you upskill or compete against systems that are becoming more general and more adept with each iteration?

 

[Sinbad]

Technology advancements dont care about the complaints and shaming it just does its thing and whomever uses it the best advances and leaves the rest behind.
You are only shooting yourself in the foot if you don't adapt and its not nice to have to go out of that comfort zone you maybe worked your whole life to achieve but you either do it early or you play catch up later.

It was one thing replacing manual labour with the knowledge economy. Thinking is what makes us human.
Now however you want to outsource thinking? What does that leave for humanity? A generation that cannot think for itself...

Not to mention the fact that there's no quality control, and no understanding of the limitations amongst its acolytes.

You think a future as a prompt engineer is going to be fun and rewarding?

 

[B-1]

It was one thing replacing manual labour with the knowledge economy. Thinking is what makes us human.
Now however you want to outsource thinking? What does that leave for humanity? A generation that cannot think for itself...

Not to mention the fact that there's no quality control, and no understanding of the limitations amongst its acolytes.

You think a future as a prompt engineer is going to be fun and rewarding?

I'm not saying its pleasant it's just a reality. If it can do the thinking in a fraction of the time and cost then its more efficient than humans. Just like we don't do complex math manually anymore and use calculators and computers to do the thinking this is an advancement that will change how we do things.
Quality control is still something humans will take care of but one quality controller can now be an entire team where it used to be a leader and a team of humans.
We can discuss the issues around the new technology but the change has/is happening whether we like it or not.

 

[Sinbad]

I'm not saying its pleasant it's just a reality. If it can do the thinking in a fraction of the time and cost then its more efficient than humans. Just like we don't do complex math manually anymore and use calculators and computers to do the thinking this is an advancement that will change how we do things.
Quality control is still something humans will take care of but one quality controller can now be an entire team where it used to be a leader and a team of humans.
We can discuss the issues around the new technology but the change has/is happening whether we like it or not.

Cost lol

Have you seen what this white elephant is doing to energy and hardware prices?

You think it's cheap or free? Currently, maybe. But wait until the shareholders demand a return on the lunatic investments they're making into this.

 

[B-1]

Cost lol

Have you seen what this white elephant is doing to energy and hardware prices?

You think it's cheap or free? Currently, maybe. But wait until the shareholders demand a return on the lunatic investments they're making into this.

It will become more efficient but even at the current costs its cheaper than the alternative. The technology is also fairly well understood so competition should be good. "Promotional" responses is far more likely to become a problem.

 

[Sinbad]

It will become more efficient but even at the current costs its cheaper than the alternative. The technology is also fairly well understood so competition should be good. "Promotional" responses is far more likely to become a problem.

The alternative is people feeding their families #justsaying.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

In both instances you could resolve to upskill yourself - either do to more meaningful work that can't be automated or to compete with other humans operating more or less on the same neurological hardware as you. How do you upskill or compete against systems that are becoming more general and more adept with each iteration?

and you don't think this is similar to robo arms replacing factory workers? You can upskill all you want in that context for that job and it's capacity but the arms will replace you in the end. So go so something else? What is the solution for this example?

 

[saor]

and you don't think this is similar to robo arms replacing factory workers? You can upskill all you want in that context for that job and it's capacity but the arms will replace you in the end. So go so something else? What is the solution for this example?

I'm not sure what you mean. Someone working a job that's replaced by robo arms is generally unskilled. So you'd upskill yourself to get a job not so readily replaced by robo arms.

 

[Sinbad]

I'm not sure what you mean. Someone working a job that's replaced by robo arms is generally unskilled. So you'd upskill yourself to get a job not so readily replaced by robo arms.

AI is going after knowledge workers. Where should they be upskilling to?

 

[saor]

AI is going after knowledge workers. Where should they be upskilling to?

Wrong tree. That's literally the point I just made - that in this case you can't upskill yourself out of the situation:

Post in thread 'When is getting replaced by ok? When it is ...'

Nov 29, 2025

Crying about it is laughable at best. Where is the crying at robotic automation or humans replacing humans, well unless its race right. Then its not right.

In both instances you could resolve to upskill yourself - either do to more meaningful work that can't be automated or to compete with other humans operating more or less on the same neurological hardware as you. How do you upskill or compete against systems that are becoming more general and more adept with each iteration?

• saor

 

[Sinbad]

Wrong tree. That's literally the point I just made - that in this case you can't upskill yourself out of the situation:

Post in thread 'When is getting replaced by ok? When it is ...'

Nov 29, 2025

Crying about it is laughable at best. Where is the crying at robotic automation or humans replacing humans, well unless its race right. Then its not right.

In both instances you could resolve to upskill yourself - either do to more meaningful work that can't be automated or to compete with other humans operating more or less on the same neurological hardware as you. How do you upskill or compete against systems that are becoming more general and more adept with each iteration?

• saor

I think we're saying the same thing

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Short answer: If it works and is more reliable than a human, yes.

Let me explain:
Would you allow your car's braking pedals be removed to be replaced by sensors feeding a breaking AI black box managing the brakes?

Currently: No - that's a hell no.
One day? maybe.

Atm AI is being pushed in where it's not mature. At a stage, we saw actual chat windows where you could talk to a human, but now being replaced to become a chatbot window. Throw it a curved ball, boom!

Meta's anti-abuse has largely been replaced by AI. What a f-up. Likewise many of the large corporate giants is fulfilling tasks where it's not quite ready. But you dare not tell them they have an ugly child.